Focus on St Austell Station
Roger Winnen
Roger Winnen
170724b Maintenance work on the St Austell Ground Frame. Copyright Roger Winnen
170724c The station approach road and the station yard at St Austell which housed the buses in the former Railway Goods shed up until the 1960s . Copyright Roger Winnen
170724d The 10.46 Penzance to Paddington arrives at St Austell. The old signal box still stands which closed on the 22nd March, 1980 together with the former GW Staff Association Club on the right - Copyright Roger Winnen
Saturdays Outing
Ride Cornwall in a Day Timings
Roger Winnen
Ride Cornwall in a Day Timings
Roger Winnen
Saturday 29th July 2017
Using Ride Cornwall ticket @ £10.75 with Railcard
You can either go to Penzance or St Ives not both owing to train connections)
Train Night Sleeper Par 06.37 St Austell 06.45 Truro 07.04 Redruth 07.18 Camborne 07.25 St Erth 07.40 Penzance 07.53 or alight at St Erth for the 08.00 for St Ives 08.13/08.14 St Erth 08.26 arrive
Train departs Penzance 08.28 St Erth 08.36 Camborne 08.46 Redruth 08.52 Truro 09.02, Truro depart 09.20 Falmouth Docks 09.44 / 10.20 Truro 10.40
Truro dep 11.05 Plymouth 12.32 Loco Hauled. Plymouth dep 12.54 Gunnislake 13.40 / 13.45 Plymouth 14.30 / 14.58 Newquay 16.47 Fish & Chips Cafe outside of station. Newquay dep 17.26 stay on the train to Liskeard 18.46 arrive Liskeard 19.28 Looe 19.59 / 20.00 Liskeard 20.28
Liskeard 21.13 Bodmin Parkway 21.25 Par 21.38 St Austell 21.45 Truro 22.03 Redruth 22.17 Camborne 22.23 St Erth 22.34 and Penzance 22.44 Passengers may return home earlier by alighting from the 17.26 Newquay at Par 18.21 and catching the 18.28 all stations to Penzance
Using Ride Cornwall ticket @ £10.75 with Railcard
You can either go to Penzance or St Ives not both owing to train connections)
Train Night Sleeper Par 06.37 St Austell 06.45 Truro 07.04 Redruth 07.18 Camborne 07.25 St Erth 07.40 Penzance 07.53 or alight at St Erth for the 08.00 for St Ives 08.13/08.14 St Erth 08.26 arrive
Train departs Penzance 08.28 St Erth 08.36 Camborne 08.46 Redruth 08.52 Truro 09.02, Truro depart 09.20 Falmouth Docks 09.44 / 10.20 Truro 10.40
Truro dep 11.05 Plymouth 12.32 Loco Hauled. Plymouth dep 12.54 Gunnislake 13.40 / 13.45 Plymouth 14.30 / 14.58 Newquay 16.47 Fish & Chips Cafe outside of station. Newquay dep 17.26 stay on the train to Liskeard 18.46 arrive Liskeard 19.28 Looe 19.59 / 20.00 Liskeard 20.28
Liskeard 21.13 Bodmin Parkway 21.25 Par 21.38 St Austell 21.45 Truro 22.03 Redruth 22.17 Camborne 22.23 St Erth 22.34 and Penzance 22.44 Passengers may return home earlier by alighting from the 17.26 Newquay at Par 18.21 and catching the 18.28 all stations to Penzance
More Thoughts
Roy Hart
Roy Hart
With reference to Adrian Vaughans Truro Running and Maintenance Depot picture.
It cannot be a Dean Goods. My original thought was that it could be an Armstrong Goods, but as Karl says, there appears to be only two driving wheel springs visible.
This would make it a 3521 class 4-4-0, I would say. 2-4-0s were completely unsuited to Cornish grades and curves, but 4-4-0s were standard after about 1895.
Having said all this, there were so many variations among GWR 4-4-0s (no less than 50 differences in boilers, for instance) that we are in danger of launching off into the realms of speculation.
However, it is well known and there is ample photographic evidence, that 3521 class 4-4-0s were regulars at Truro from 1900 or so until about 1922.
The 3521 class had a history bordering on the absurd:
They were built in the 1880s as 20 standard gauge and 20 broad gauge 0-4-2 saddle tanks. They were unsteady and tended to destroy the track, so to improve balance, they were rebuilt as 0-4-4T, standard gauge. They were used on the Cornish main line working in pairs and on 13 April 1895, two of them hauling a down express derailed, together with their train, near Clinnick viaduct in the Glyn valley. The Board of Trade inspector (Major Addison) concluded that the previous train -also hauled by a pair of the same class, had damaged the track. These engines were 'unsteady at high speed' he said and he recommended that 'a different class of engine' be used in Cornwall.
The result (after another of the class had run off the embankment at Penryn) was that the entire class was rebuilt as 4-4-0 tender engines!
They were reallocated around the system and feature in most early 20th century pictures of the Falmouth branch.
Roy Many thanks Roy
It cannot be a Dean Goods. My original thought was that it could be an Armstrong Goods, but as Karl says, there appears to be only two driving wheel springs visible.
This would make it a 3521 class 4-4-0, I would say. 2-4-0s were completely unsuited to Cornish grades and curves, but 4-4-0s were standard after about 1895.
Having said all this, there were so many variations among GWR 4-4-0s (no less than 50 differences in boilers, for instance) that we are in danger of launching off into the realms of speculation.
However, it is well known and there is ample photographic evidence, that 3521 class 4-4-0s were regulars at Truro from 1900 or so until about 1922.
The 3521 class had a history bordering on the absurd:
They were built in the 1880s as 20 standard gauge and 20 broad gauge 0-4-2 saddle tanks. They were unsteady and tended to destroy the track, so to improve balance, they were rebuilt as 0-4-4T, standard gauge. They were used on the Cornish main line working in pairs and on 13 April 1895, two of them hauling a down express derailed, together with their train, near Clinnick viaduct in the Glyn valley. The Board of Trade inspector (Major Addison) concluded that the previous train -also hauled by a pair of the same class, had damaged the track. These engines were 'unsteady at high speed' he said and he recommended that 'a different class of engine' be used in Cornwall.
The result (after another of the class had run off the embankment at Penryn) was that the entire class was rebuilt as 4-4-0 tender engines!
They were reallocated around the system and feature in most early 20th century pictures of the Falmouth branch.
Roy Many thanks Roy
Dear Keith.
I have reading with interest some of the theories regarding picture of Truro shed from Adrian Vaughan. Some ideas have been put forward including a Dean Goods which I initially agreed with, however blowing the image up to 500% I noticed a couple of design features that make me believe there are only two sets of driving wheels . My reason for this are the springs on top of the running plate, one is next the the side sheet of the cab and one other forward of this is next to the boiler's dome, but no springs in front of that set just a sand box. If there was to be another driving wheel surely there would be a third set of springs but there isn't. This then leads me to believe it is either a 2-4-0 or a 4-4-0 and this is where I have some fun trying to identifying the locomotive. It is certainly a Dean designed locomotive, if it is a 2-4-0 then very 'similar' to the GWR Stella Class 2-4-0 but not a perfect match, If it is a 4-4-0 it has a sticking 'resemblance' to the 3521 class locomotives. I doubt it is a Dean Goods, in all the images I have seen they don't have springs on the running plates plus it would have three sets and this locomotive only has two, but the plot thickens as they say!
The wagon in the foreground seems to carry the number 5300 on the end.
Kind Regards
Karl (Friends of Penmere).
I have reading with interest some of the theories regarding picture of Truro shed from Adrian Vaughan. Some ideas have been put forward including a Dean Goods which I initially agreed with, however blowing the image up to 500% I noticed a couple of design features that make me believe there are only two sets of driving wheels . My reason for this are the springs on top of the running plate, one is next the the side sheet of the cab and one other forward of this is next to the boiler's dome, but no springs in front of that set just a sand box. If there was to be another driving wheel surely there would be a third set of springs but there isn't. This then leads me to believe it is either a 2-4-0 or a 4-4-0 and this is where I have some fun trying to identifying the locomotive. It is certainly a Dean designed locomotive, if it is a 2-4-0 then very 'similar' to the GWR Stella Class 2-4-0 but not a perfect match, If it is a 4-4-0 it has a sticking 'resemblance' to the 3521 class locomotives. I doubt it is a Dean Goods, in all the images I have seen they don't have springs on the running plates plus it would have three sets and this locomotive only has two, but the plot thickens as they say!
The wagon in the foreground seems to carry the number 5300 on the end.
Kind Regards
Karl (Friends of Penmere).
Exmouth Junction
Coal Concentration Depot
Ron Kosys
Coal Concentration Depot
Ron Kosys
A request to Western Fuels at Exmouth Junction to photograph their Drewry (3056 of 1964) at the same time as the three times weekly (MWF) Speedlink Coal Network service was about, was very favourably received.
This was arranged for 12th September 1988, when the visiting 37 was 37214. Note the passing MetCam accelerating away from the Junction and towards Exeter Central.
Unfortunately the light had totally collapsed by the time the empties were leaving for East Usk.
This size of this train could vary dramatically; sometimes it could be short as five wagons or so; other times as many as in excess of thirty.
Every single aspect of this location, service and locos are now memories... sadly.
Many thanks Ron for your unique set of pictures.
This was arranged for 12th September 1988, when the visiting 37 was 37214. Note the passing MetCam accelerating away from the Junction and towards Exeter Central.
Unfortunately the light had totally collapsed by the time the empties were leaving for East Usk.
This size of this train could vary dramatically; sometimes it could be short as five wagons or so; other times as many as in excess of thirty.
Every single aspect of this location, service and locos are now memories... sadly.
Many thanks Ron for your unique set of pictures.
Exmouth Jn Coal Concentration Depot with Drewry shunter 3056 built 1964 12th September 1988 Copyright Ron Kosys
Exmouth Junction Coal Concentration Depot with 37214. Note a DMU heading for Exeter scuttles past. 12th September 1988 Copyright Ron Kosys
Exmouth Jn CCD 37214 12th September 1988 Copyright Ron Kosys
Exmouth Jn Coal Concentration Depot in the back ground as 37214 heads away with the Exmouth Jn-East Usk on the 12th September 1988 Copyright Ron Kosys
Taunton
John Cornelius
John Cornelius
Copyright John Cornelius