Bill Elston-Craig Munday- David Tozer Trevor Tremethick- Andrew Triggs
Clive Smith-Roger Salter
& Roger Winnen
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The Royal Duchy
Bill Elston-Craig Munday- David Tozer Trevor Tremethick- Andrew Triggs
Clive Smith-Roger Salter
& Roger Winnen
N.B. Because of the interest and the number of pictures this item on the Royal Duchy is being portrayed as a Feature. Please click here to look at the features section and scroll to item 2019.
After a hiatus of anything interesting visiting the Duchy, the Bank Holiday weekend saw the first Charter visit. The steam loco worked the Royal Duchy only between Bristol Temple Meads and Plymouth due to ongoing turning issues. WCR's class 47 47804 worked the final leg of the tour, and is seen working hard on the climb from Moorswater viaduct to Doublebois at Lantoom Quarry. 30th August 2020. Copyrght Craig Munday
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The Lower Teign
Views of trains along the Teign Estuary are, to us, quite rare with views being limited by difficult access governed by tide states.
Stunning pictures at
Over at Oath this evening for weekly run of the HOBC from Taunton Fairwater Yd for an ‘overnighter’ at Tilehurst, near Reading. It was lead by Genesee orange liveried 66415, named You Are Never Alone (!), with 66953 bringing up the rear . Hope they are of interest, Best regards, Bill
Many thanks Bill
Dawlish & Shaldon
Phil Smith & Paul Barlow
Re Phil Smith's picture of Flying Scotsman at Dawlish.
I was at Shaldon bridge for the same train which was run in conjunction with Newton Abbot festival of transport.
Hope all is well Kind regards, Paul Barlow
Great minds and photographers think alike!
Many thanks to Phil and Paul.
Treloweth and Golant
The weather of the 28th was gloomy with some sunny spells. I decided to venture out regardless for the loco hauled NMT worked by Colas Rail's 67023 and 67027. With the train 8 mins early from Truro the most gruesome cloud wrapped itself around the sun and I thought all was lost. As the distinctive hum of the locos and hollow howl of the coaches came into earshot, a miracle happened! A gap appeared in the clouds from the North Coast and the train was lit! The area is being cleared by Stobbart rail, and they have made a start along the embankments here near Grampound Road. The train just fitted in between the trees too. It's now a definite rarity to capture a loco hauled train west of Burngullow in daylight. Also included is an afternoon shot at Golant of 66020 working the clay to Carne Point. I've included the cars, who knows, someone may look at the CRS archive in years to come and revel in this "vintage" car display! Regards Craig
Many thanks Craig
STEAM ONLY TO PLYMOUTH TODAY
A sad little bit of news that the only Royal Duchy of the season runs today Sun 30th from Bristol to Par & return. It will be DIESEL hauled in Cornwall due to issues turning the steam loco. A WCR class 47 is scheduled to work the train with the steam loco residing in Plymouth whilst the tour visits Par. Down train: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U55140/2020-08-30/detailed Up train: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U55147/2020-08-30/detailed
Also down last evening the 29th was a Colas engineering train from Westbury to Penzance. The schedule is here: https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U39251/2020-08-29/detailed
This was hauled by a class 66 and class 70. It ran to Penzance then back to the St Austell area to work overnight. It returns Sunday morning. Best wishes Craig
Again thanks Craig.
70812 Westbury Down to
St Austell via Penzance
Andrew Triggs Roger Winnen
All masked up at
Clive writes :- 67023 stands at platform 5 at Exeter St Davids with the 1Z18 15.40 Paignton - Taunton Network Rail measurement train. 67027 is on the front. The new normal can be seen with various passengers wearing facemasks as I had to do so too with this station being a designated transport hub. Regards, Clive Smith
Many thanks to you Clive.
Parkandillack - the last train Phillip Hawke
SAD NEWS - Keith, I noticed the report about Parkandillick in your news section. I was told last weekend by an Imrys manager (about 31st August 2020) that was the last train to be loaded there. Something about longer trains and the problem of shunting.
Today (28th August 2020) the Clay from Fowey Docks Carne Point actually ran to Parkandillack behind DBC 66020, traffic to the end of the line being somewhat sporadic to say the least lately, find the enclosed shots for CRS All the Best, Andrew.
Many thanks Andrew.
Going round the bend with
In case they are useful to you for the Devon gallery, I enclose 7 photographs taken around Tavistock Junction Yard and the 90 degree curve round towards Marsh Mills on 30/06/00 (shunter 08798) and 2 photographs taken at Marsh Mills dries on 27/06/07 (shunter 09013).
Brings back happy memories, With best wishes. David Stannard.
Of interest from David Stannard.
Whilst in the loft I came across the letter I received from the Senior Supervisor at Marsh Mills Dryers in response to my enquiry as to whether clay was still being shipped from there in the summer of 2007. In a most informative letter (which included a kind invitation for an escorted tour) he states:
We normally ship 24 CDAs each Wednesday which is around 700t of material to our storage facility at Fowey. The first string of 16 CDAs usually arrives at around 08:30 hrs and is typically on site for around a couple of hours for loading before being returned to Tavistock Junction Yard. The second string of 8 CDAs are then brought up a bit later to complete the loading.
In addition to this we normally ship between 2 and 5 Nacco wagons and 1 Cargowaggon on Fridays for onward movement to our Cliffe Vale depot at Stoke-on-Trent.
Interestingly he refers to the CDAs as 'Cornwall and Devon Air braked' which I don't think that I had heard before (and do not know if it is correct as I am not aware of such a rationale behind the designations of other wagon fleets).
A different year - moving on to Marsh Mills Works.
Readers will find it interesting to look at the branch from above using 'Google Earth' and to compare then and now views using the 'clock' along the top of the depicted view. One can go back as far as 2002 and see the branch as it was when in operational use and compare it with recent views and also take a look at the very near by Plym Valley Railway.
Many Thanks David;
Network Rail Measurement Train
Roger Salter, Leslie Curnow
& Roger Winnen
Today saw the monthly visit of this Measurement Train to Penzance. Departure from Reading Triangle Sidings at 06/11 with an arrival at Penzance at 11.24. Departing 12.04 it heads for Dawlish Warren then Paignton arriving at 15.33
Thanks to Roger & Leslie
Shooting Range Platform
Shooting Range Platform, sometimes referred as Rifle Range Platform, was built in approx mid 1880’s to serve the military rifle range. Access was by rail only and trains stopped by written permission from the army. The station platform was simple and formed by railway sleepers bolted longitudinally on edge and infilled with rubble topped with a cinder surface. The targets for the range were situated across the River Camel and required serviceman to use a punt to gain access and operate the machinery. Officially closed during the 1950,s according to my neighbour who served with the Duke of Cornwalls Light Infantry. I took the attached photograph 10 years after closure to passengers. At this time the old galvanised refreshment hut was still standing complete with pot belly stove, unfortunately long gone. Freight was still daily and the railway was well kept. The super elevation of the track can be seen, which was a feature of the railway with a relative high speed achievable for a secondary route as was the case on the North Cornwall Line. Shooting Range Platform is on the left in the photograph looking towards Pendavy Bridge. Just out of view in the distance is the junction with the North Cornwall Line. There is a proposal to reinstate the trackbed as an addition to the Camel Trail from the junction to Sladesbridge forming a new link along the former LSWR route to a proposed housing development. If the proposed reinstatement of the railway from Boscarne to Wadebridge goes ahead I suppose the Shooting Range Platform may re open to the public. I hope I live long enough to see it !
Best wishes Andrew and Diane
Many thanks to you Diane and Andrew - I never gave it a thought as to where the actual range was - very interesting.
Long Rock visit
The late John Cornelius
Nice to see a group shot.
Many thanks to the late John Cornelius
Today on the Southern
Good Morning Keith,
We had a bit of dry weather ahead of the deluge which would have reached you already. Herewith attached pic of the 05.56 Reading to Salisbury (via Exeter) heading West near Axminster East Junction.0556 Reading
"The Network Rail Measurement Train came through Somerset and Devon today headed by Colas Railfreight Class 67023 "Stella" leading the Radio Survey coach 977868, Overhead Line Inspection coach 977983, PLPR Track Inspection coach 5981 and the Generator coach 6264 with CR class 67027 Charlotte on the tail. A change of location for me, below the Axminster Town football field, and surprise at the growth of vegetation in this section which balanced the ease of access along a metalled cycle track."
Best wishes to you and yours, Brian
Many thanks Brian.
On the Southern Yesterday & Today
The late John Cornelius
On 21 September 1962, 6800 Arlington Grange was hauling a freight train which overran signals at Steventon and was derailed. It was officially withdrawn in 1964.
We are most grateful to our very good friend the late John Cornelius, a former signalman and life long enthusiast, well known in railway circles who passed on to us many of his fine photographs. Many of his photographs had the caption embedded within the picture as seen above.
These trains don't appear on Realtime Trains!
Phil has travelled down from his usual area of Bristol to get this fine shot.
Many thanks Phil.
B & W R
Clay Wagons Project
Progress update - Work continues on the dismantle of Clay Wagon B743635, with the complete removal of all the wood and metal work which included the tipper door. It was found that the tipper door bar has been bent out of shape and hopefully can be straightened. Now that the above has been completed the next job is to use a needle gun and wire brush on the frame so that it can be ready for inspection. If you would like to see the latest news, history and general information about the Clay Wagon Project, please make sure to follow us on our Facebook, Twitter and Instagram linked below. https://www.facebook.com/claywagonproject http://www.instagram.com/claywagonproject/ https://twitter.com/claywagonbodmin
Regards Clay Wagon Project Team
Congratulations team a grand start - keep up the good work.
From Rogers archive of 1977.
Many thanks to Roger for these memories.
6C97 at St Budeaux (Ferry Road) Colas Rail 70816 top and tailed with 70812 headed to Cornwall from Westbury with the RDT (Rail Delivery Train) as 6C97 for a rail drop at Shillingham between Saltash and St Germans over two nights, pictured is 70816 at St Budeaux Ferry Road awaiting the possession to be given up to return to Westbury on 23rd August 2020 - Alan Peters
Many thanks to you Alan.
In response to a query concerning signs on Perranporth station Ed Hooper kindly wrote in :- Dear CRS, Whilst I'm afraid I can't add any photos of the station signs and posters, I am pleased to say that at least one of the signal box cast iron nameplates survives. It was acquired at a local antiques fair in Perranporth in around 1990 and given to my late uncle, signalman Charles Fennamore. Perranporth unusually had two signal box nameplates, being located on an island platform. I wonder if its twin survives? A similar nameplate from St. Agnes can be found restored in the museum there. Charles lived for many years nearby at Mithian, where he had an uninterrupted view of Goonbell viaduct. He is pictured here working in Truro signalbox, guessing early 2000's. Best Regards, Ed Hooper
Many thanks to Ed Hooper, Mike Roach and the late Patrick English.
Craig was up at Bristol when 'The Devonian' was running in the area and kindly sends us these photographs.
Many thanks Craig - welcome back home.
A 'fiery end to your sequence' - many thanks to you Craig.
Chaos on my 75th Birthday Bash
After purchasing a Cornwall Rover Ticket yesterday I decided to head first to Plymouth for photos of the Royal Albert Bridge from the Devon side On arrival at Plymouth the wind was so strong blowing through the station that I knocked it on the head and returned to Liskeard for refreshments as nothing is opened at present on Plymouth Station. After departing Liskeard I alighted at Bodmin Parkway for the Transport for Cornwall Bus to Trago Mills, looking for Railway Books etc and looking at the viaduct above. Returning to Bodmin Parkway for the 12.50 Penzance to Plymouth where I alighted at Saltash, however the guard had problems opening and closing the doors of a Castle Class HST delaying the train 20 mins. Catching a later train into Plymouth the opportunity arose to return home on the 13.03 Paddington to Penzance due to depart Plymouth at 16.30. Arrival at Liskeard was on time at 16.55, announcements were made that the train would be delayed owing to signalling problems between Liskeard and Bodmin Parkway which was the single line over the viaducts at Trago Mills etc, after arrival of the first train from Bodmin we would depart westwards, that was not the case as we waited for three trains to pass and eventually departed Liskeard at 18.38 hrs arriving Penzance at 20.03. 3 hours 33 mins from Plymouth. It reminds one of the 12 noon in Steam Days Penzance to Glasgow which took the same time to reach Plymouth
Many thanks for the Many Greeting Cards sent
Distant views of
Carn Brea & Forder
A view from the locally lofty Carn Brea looking north towards the coast. In the foreground lies the Camborne Redruth Hospital complex known locally as Barncoose Hospital formerly a Workhouse. A mixed formation comprising of two 153's led by a 150 heads across Barncoose embankment with the 13.00 Penzance to Plymouth service on the 8th August 2015. The embankment was built as part of the Hayle Railway which itself forms the oldest section of the Paddinton to Penzance route. Copyright Chris Harvey.
Many thanks Chris.
45130 waits at platform 5 with the Sunday 18.15 Plymouth - Cardiff Central on the 9th January 1983. A lightweight load five and this train was quite often a peak. Regards Clive Smith
A further note :- 45130 formerly D117 was withdrawn on the 10th May 1987 and then sent for scrap to MC Metals Glasgow where it finally met its end in March 1992.
Many thanks to you Clive.
A couple of my periodic questions which I hope may be answered through the website. 1. 94XX pannier No. 8408, withdrawn (I think) off Swansea East Dock in 1959 and, after a sojourn at Swindon, was employed at Truro 83F as a stationary boiler. According to Peter Hands' notes in 'What Happened to Steam' she was at Truro between November 1960 and June 1963 (approx). There is a photo in Maurice Dart's book 'The Last Days of Steam in Plymouth and Cornwall' but it is a close up. Does anyone have a photo showing the location of 8408 in relation to the shed building at Truro (or can describe it)? 2. Perranporth station subway (see my photograph of the lower exit taken in April 2005). I was a small child when I used this and can't recall much about it. The top part, on the platform, had a sign saying 'Way Out' but what was down here? I know it came out close to Henry Morgan's, the Stationmaster's, house and there would have been taxis drawn up, but what signage was there? Was there a sign saying 'Perranporth Station' and / or noticeboards with timetables, posters, etc? I suppose it would be too much to hope that anyone would have photographed this area - no reason to I would imagine. I just hope someone might remember. Well, there's a couple of challenges for you!! Kind regards to all Trevor T
The Truro shed Question
This has, I understand been answered in a telephone conversation between Roger Winnen and Trevor.
Any further comments please :-
The Perranporth station question.
Here is Trevor's photograph of the blocked off subway :-
I used this station once or twice - it wasn't very convenient for the beach or town which was much better served by Perranporth Beach Halt - this had opened on the 20th July 1931. The ticket office was located within the main station block - Henry Morgan can be very briefly glimpsed in a video of the line as he sold the last ticket. The steps I recall were in two separate 'in line flights' with a landing midway. As can be seen with reference to our photographs in our section on the Chacewater - Newquay branch the station had large 'running in' nameboards at each end of the platform. The signal box can just be glimpsed at the eastern end of the platform beyond the main station building. KJ
Thank you for your questions and the photograph Trevor - any further comments.
Dear chaps Very many thanks for putting my questions on the website. However, the Truro shed / 8408 question is as yet some way from a full resolution despite telephone conversations between Roger and myself, so any photographs or memories from other observers will still be welcomed. I would also be very interested if anyone has photographs (or can describe) the interior of Truro shed and workshops as I was never able to visit. Anyway, thanks again, your help always appreciated. Kindest regards Trevor
Severn Tunnel Jct Shed.
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