Features
July to December 2020
July to December 2020
Item 2016 Falmouth Dockyard and its Railways. Lt. Philip Boak. R.N.
Item 2017 The Centenary of the P.D. & S.W. Jct Railway
Item 2018 The Ponts Mill Derailment.
Item 2019 The 'Royal Duchy' 30th August 2020
Item 2020 History of the Ruthern Bridge Branch by Andrew Jones.
Item 2021 Dawlish - All Change. Clive Smith takes a look at Dawlish in the recent past September 2020 and will follow up with pictures of the reconstruction.
Item 2022 The 'Cornish Riviera Statesman' - Three days of luxury.
Item 2023 Weymouth Street Tramway Demolition - started 12th October 2020.
Item 2024 John Vines visits the Looe line in the summer of 1954 - in steam days.
Item 2025 A Christmas story - by Laurence Hansford.
Item 2017 The Centenary of the P.D. & S.W. Jct Railway
Item 2018 The Ponts Mill Derailment.
Item 2019 The 'Royal Duchy' 30th August 2020
Item 2020 History of the Ruthern Bridge Branch by Andrew Jones.
Item 2021 Dawlish - All Change. Clive Smith takes a look at Dawlish in the recent past September 2020 and will follow up with pictures of the reconstruction.
Item 2022 The 'Cornish Riviera Statesman' - Three days of luxury.
Item 2023 Weymouth Street Tramway Demolition - started 12th October 2020.
Item 2024 John Vines visits the Looe line in the summer of 1954 - in steam days.
Item 2025 A Christmas story - by Laurence Hansford.
Item 2025
A Christmas story
By Laurence Hansford
A Christmas story
By Laurence Hansford
It's close to Christmas 2020, and what a year it has been. At Christmas time is is customary to pick up a book and read a little. Here our very good friend and regular contributor of articles Laurence Hansford, formerly of St Ives, sends us a copy of his childhood recollections and ventures on his bicycle.
Laurence writes - Talking of reminiscences and nostalgia, I have been thinking about Griggs Quay and why I was familiar with that moth-eaten old railway bridge and it was mainly because of the Blacksmith’s Forge which was nearby. It may have been commonly referred to as Griggs Forge but that was not its real name. Trouble is I can’t remember what it actually was; anyway no matter.
When I was a teenager I got a proper bike and this opened new horizons for me and when I was at a loose end I would cycle round to Hayle. Hayle, I always found a fascinating place because of the semi-derelict Harveys engineering works and other old industrial buildings in Copperhouse but mainly because of the harbour which was still a bustling place, most of it open to nosey schoolboys. There were always at least a couple of coasters unloading typically coal, timber, petrol, oil, sulphur or building materials and there were also railway lines all over the place and if you were lucky you might catch a tank-engine pottering about. There was even an ancient, but still functioning gas-works which still supplied the town on the spit of land behind Philps Pasty emporium. There was also a wonderful Govt. Surplus Store which sold all manner of interesting objects within my pocket money range from military bases all over the West Country.
Quite often I never got as far as Hayle as I would get waylaid; in those days Griggs Forge was still an old- fashioned but very active Blacksmith’s shop with a large coke hearth and a proper old-fashioned blacksmith who I saw as a magician with white hot wrought-iron. Frequently, I couldn’t resist stopping to watch. I think his bread & butter was making and repairing farm implements, gates etc., but he also made ornamental garden gates from wrought-iron, all fire-welded in the heath (as opposed to electric or oxy-acetylene welded) and the craftsmanship was superb. However, he often still shod horses (there were still working farm horses in those days and plenty used for riding) and this was definitely worth watching. Not for him ready made horse-shoes adjusted to fit. Instead, whilst the horse patiently waited he would take a square bar of wrought-iron from the rack and very deftly turn the end into a horse-shoe of about the right size with just a few hammer strokes, check it fitted, get it re-hot, plunge it into the horse’s hoof, nail it in position and finish it all with a rasp. Job done. Amazing.
When I was a teenager I got a proper bike and this opened new horizons for me and when I was at a loose end I would cycle round to Hayle. Hayle, I always found a fascinating place because of the semi-derelict Harveys engineering works and other old industrial buildings in Copperhouse but mainly because of the harbour which was still a bustling place, most of it open to nosey schoolboys. There were always at least a couple of coasters unloading typically coal, timber, petrol, oil, sulphur or building materials and there were also railway lines all over the place and if you were lucky you might catch a tank-engine pottering about. There was even an ancient, but still functioning gas-works which still supplied the town on the spit of land behind Philps Pasty emporium. There was also a wonderful Govt. Surplus Store which sold all manner of interesting objects within my pocket money range from military bases all over the West Country.
Quite often I never got as far as Hayle as I would get waylaid; in those days Griggs Forge was still an old- fashioned but very active Blacksmith’s shop with a large coke hearth and a proper old-fashioned blacksmith who I saw as a magician with white hot wrought-iron. Frequently, I couldn’t resist stopping to watch. I think his bread & butter was making and repairing farm implements, gates etc., but he also made ornamental garden gates from wrought-iron, all fire-welded in the heath (as opposed to electric or oxy-acetylene welded) and the craftsmanship was superb. However, he often still shod horses (there were still working farm horses in those days and plenty used for riding) and this was definitely worth watching. Not for him ready made horse-shoes adjusted to fit. Instead, whilst the horse patiently waited he would take a square bar of wrought-iron from the rack and very deftly turn the end into a horse-shoe of about the right size with just a few hammer strokes, check it fitted, get it re-hot, plunge it into the horse’s hoof, nail it in position and finish it all with a rasp. Job done. Amazing.
Yes, Keith, that is the correct location and I am reasonably certain that the forge itself was actually in the building featured and something tells me that it was at the right hand end, now occupied by the door with the letter-box. There were definitely other buildings associated with it but what went on in them was unknown as they were not "open to the public". As for the assortment of buildings across the road. As I recall, there was just nothing there apart from marshland and the railway embankment. What is now the car-park for Lelant Saltings started to be used as the Corporation Rubbish Tip by St Ives Borough in the mid 50s. I remember it being the go-to place for pram wheels if you were building a go-cart; I think the going rate was 5 bob. Of course that was in the days when all dust-carts were either Dennis or Shelvoke & Dewry with bread-bin bodies which made it easy for the dustmen to delve within for treasure! Before and during the war they used to dump all the rubbish down a shute into the sea off the back of the Island. I believe for a few years before the use of Lelant, it also used to go down disused mine-shafts but I never knew which or even where. As for the now covered marsh-land it was quite different in character from what was on the other side of the railway. I recall being taken there on a primary school outing about 1950 (I suppose it would be called a field trip today) because of all the unfamiliar plants and wild-life not found around St Ives and we went home with bunches of catkins. I guess its use as a dumping ground would never be allowed today.
Anyway getting back to Hayle, even the Journey from Griggs Quay to Hayle could be interesting as the old A30 ran along Hayle Causeway and roughly parallel with the main railway line, in full view. Summer Saturdays would be pretty busy with a succession of heavy passenger trains and double-heading was very common. This was the time of the transition from steam to diesel and literally any combination could turn up. About the only thing you could assume with reasonable certainty was that one loco would be powerful and the other of a smaller breed. Either could be in front; you name a possible combination and I probably saw it although, regretfully, I never noted them down. And equally regretfully, I never had the means to photograph them either. But things change and by the summer of 1964 I did have a camera and could afford film. This line of thought reminded me that I happened to be in Hayle one day in August 64 when the daily goods was just leaving the harbour and took a series of photos around the swing bridge so I dug them out and here they are. Of course, by then regular steam had well and truly departed from West Cornwall so you will have to be contented with images of a D63XX type 2 diesel, sorry.
Post script - this also makes very interesting reading. I was just an inquisitive, nosey child very interested in railways and anything technical - and I still am. Now, getting back to Cornwall, like you, my parents never had (or even had the vaguest idea of how to drive) a car. Mind you neither did most other St Ives residents. As a result we only ever visited places we could get to by train and/or bus or, very occasionally, boat. St Ives was never large enough (or remote enough) to boast its own Grammar School so when I passed my 11+ I was a bit disappointed by a Western National bus season ticket turning-up in the post - I had hoped for a BR season ticket; I suppose Cornwall County Council got a better deal from Western National. It may have been a 40 minute journey but It did have one very large redeeming factor, namely a twice a day grand-stand view of Ponsandane and Long-Rock Loco Shed. So I was able to witness the occasional Britannia Class Loco and then when the first Warship turned up having hauled the previous day's down Cornish Riviera Express. Also, there was the interesting period whist the turn-table was being overhauled and all trains were in the hands of tank engines. This brought some rarely if ever seen types including the large 8-coupled tanks from the clay lines. More disappointing (for me) was the gradual but inexorable progressive take-over of West Cornwall by the diesels; now even these things are revered. Sadly, and much regretted at the time, I never had access to a decent camera or film. Turning to your question about Griggs Forge .It certainly occupied the group of buildings to which you refer. As for the location of the hearth itself (the real heart of the forge) I can't now be certain but my gut feeling is that it was in the granite building parallel with the road (the one nearest to St Ives) plastered with the red Scarlets signs. I have tried to find old photos on the net but I suppose it had to compete with many rather more photogenic local subjects. I don't think it was the white painted building although I do think it was part of the premises. Thanks for the Hayle photos. (Talking about Hayle, I can tell you it, and Redruth for that matter, were foreign countries to me as well until I got my bike.) My, what a transformation in recent years, it's a different place but much less interesting. £320k for those North Quay flats may seem a lot but you don't get much for that kind of money round here; something similar with a ring-side view of the Thames would put you back at least double and probably more. You can see why Cornwall is being bought up by those with money for second/holiday homes. You can blame cheap, comfortable, reliable cars together with motorways and dual carriageways making Cornwall easily accessible.
Kindest regards, have a lovely Christmas and stay safe and thanks for the Christmas Card. I would send you one if I knew your address. Laurence
Kindest regards, have a lovely Christmas and stay safe and thanks for the Christmas Card. I would send you one if I knew your address. Laurence
Photographs from August 1964 -
from the Laurence Hansford Collection
from the Laurence Hansford Collection
27c D6349 has drawn right up onto the Swing Bridge with traffic still unaffected. A good view of the new drop barriers and control cabin which replaced the old Signal-Box which opened and closed the conventional swing gates as well as controlling the swing bridge. The locals are starting to gather! (centre of picture) Copyright Laurence Hansford.
27e More locals have arrived, all on the railway side of the barriers. Unfortunately, I can’t now remember if the railway employee with the hat (behind the car) was the guard of the train or the signalman whose job was to raise and lower the barriers. The big white building with the windows prominent in the middle distance was once the Steam Packet Inn and the building next to it (the Labour Exchange at the time the picture was taken) used to be the Customs House. And still the traffic continues to flow. Copyright Laurence Hansford.
27h Now the barriers are fully down, D6349 is slowly drawing its train across the A30. The chap with the peaked cap just beyond the control cabin is obviously a railway worker. Now you can clearly see a wisp of smoke coming from the taller Power Station Chimney. Although the Power Station often worked at full capacity, I never saw much more smoke as it was equipped with fairly modern high-pressure water tube boilers continuously fed by conveyor belt. I know this as I was lucky enough to go round on a school trip when I was in the 6th form. Copyright Laurence Hansford.
27k 27k The show is over and everyone has dispersed, except for the fellow on the motorbike who appears to be having problems. In those days bikes could be quite temperamental. This is the same motorbike with an L Plate visible in the centre of some of the earlier pictures. Notice the fishmonger’s sign in the background and high up on the skyline next to the electricity post a signal set to “danger”. I like the great big gauntlets! Probably Govt Surplus. Copyright Laurence Hansford.
27l Now everything is back to normal. I took this shot from the only spot I could find where I could see all 5 new drop barriers at once (two pairs across the A30 and a single one to protect the road over the swing bridge) as well as the track on the bridge and right up the hill as far as the over-bridge. However, thrown in for luck is Mr Williams’ Central Garage/Turf Accountants and Fishmongers. Copyright Laurence Hansford.
The long winter shadows don't help but this is a view taken from approximately the position of the barrier equipment in the the above picture - 27K. Quite what secrets the red brick building which is prominent in the view holds is not known but could possibly house the equipment necessary to lift the bridge for it to be turned. However as this operation in the 'old days' meant sealing off water pipes and goodness knows what else before the bridge could be swung. (At least one would need to contact Hayle station signal box - it doesn't exist!!. 5th December 2020. Copyright Keith Jenkin.
A view of the modern flats which now occupy 'North Quay'. personally I wouldn't call it an improvement as I found, as did Laurence. the industrial scene much more interesting. The Hayle Wharves branch passed behind the Customs House which is the nearest building. 5th December 2020. Copyright Keith Jenkin. One can still spot trains from this location - the St Ives branch pops into view in the distance across Hayle Estuary before it plunges into cutting at the southern end of Lelant golf course.
A very interesting account of Laurence's childhood exploits. Many thanks to you Laurence for putting pen to paper to record the first excursions to Griggs Forge and then later giving us the benefit of those unrepeatable views of a working over the crossing at Hayle. Such memories. Also many thanks to Roger for making that special trip to photograph Griggs Forge which nowadays exudes more tasty smells than those of a red hot shoe burning its way into a horses hoof!
Item 2024
The Looe line -
in the summer of 1954 - in steam days.
By the late John Vines
It was about four months ago that Andrew Vines approached the Web Site to ask if we would be interested in a couple of photographs taken by his late father John Vines. He sent a couple of examples and an exchange of E-mails took place and as a result Andrew has sent us all his Dads pictures on the main line in the Liskeard area and down the Looe branch taken some sixty six years ago.
Firstly a few pictures at Liskeard
Liskeard main line looking west. A healthy string of vans are in the goods yard, whie the station offers a contrast in liquid refreshment. If the locomotives required refreshment these a tank and water crane on the platform. Note the motorised trolled - NGF921 if you are interested. Copyright the late John Vines.
A 'Manon' pilots a 'Hall' over Moorswater viaduct with the down Cornish Riviera express. The premier train is still made up of ex GWR Hawksworth rather than BR coaches - Copyright the late John Vines. The pillars of the former timber viaduct ceased to carry traffic 25th February 1881. Copyright the late John Vines.
Now on down the branch.
4565 runs rund the Looe branch train at Liskeard; a 'B' set plus one. Note the label 'Bodmin 2' on the coach end. - Copyright the late John Vines. Note the branch signalbox - this closed 15th March 1964 The run round loop was taken out of use on the 8th March 1964 and removed November 1965. The majority of the sidings were removed in 1965 .
We briefly head up to Moorswater.
On down the branch to Looe.
Looe from the station. A 45XX quietly shunts the yard. - Copyright John Vines. The Goods yard and run round loop closed in November 1963 and lifted in 1964. Copyright the late John Vines. The tallest signal referred to the line into the yard and run round loop. The lower signal was for the line which passed through the former carriage shed and engine shed and served as a release line for the loop. Copyright the late John Vines.
Andrew Vines said that his father would have been very pleased for his photographs taken back in 1954 to feature on our website sixty six years later. A very sincere thanks to Andrew for releasing his fathers pictures to us - we hope that they serve as a fine memorial to John Vines and also a grand holiday all those years ago.
We hope that John is looking down and smiling.
We hope that John is looking down and smiling.
Item 2023
Weymouth Street Tramway
Demolition Reports
Demolition Work started 12th October 2020
Weymouth Street Tramway
Demolition Reports
Demolition Work started 12th October 2020
As you are aware demolition of the tramway track at Weymouth has commenced. I have attached some photos quickly taken yesterday near the station for your perusal.
Regards, John Smerdon. We welcome your pictures - many thanks.
Regards, John Smerdon. We welcome your pictures - many thanks.
Here is a link for the News Report. Please click below :-
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-54386389#:~:text=A%20155%2Dyear%2Dold%20railway,since%201999%2C%20are%20being%20removed.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-dorset-54386389#:~:text=A%20155%2Dyear%2Dold%20railway,since%201999%2C%20are%20being%20removed.
John Smerdon again visited the line on the 17th October.
Another nice day, so an excuse to go to Weymouth again! Since Thursday lunchtime the Contractors have removed over 200 metres of track from beside the bus garage along Commercial Road and laid new tarmac. The upturned track panels had been removed. However on walking along the quay side to the harbour station I discovered that the Contractors have created a compound beside the end of the platform. Therein are several stacks of upturned track panels confirming the rails were mounted on concrete sleepers. However in the corner I could also see a small quantity of wooden sleepers with chairs still attached. The Contractors are using this area to break up the concrete panels and placing the salvaged rails and chairs in skips. I have attached a few more photos which you might like to make use of in your feature.
Kind regards, John Smerdon
Kind regards, John Smerdon
Report from Guy Vincent 20th October 2020. Today turned out to be rather sad as my duties took me to Weymouth and I was able to spend half an hour or so witnessing the removal of the Tramway close to the Westham Road junction. The work is being undertaken by contractors working for Dorset Council highways and not Network Rail. Attached is a series of pictures that detail the removal of the track and this sequence should generally be repeated until the old ferry terminal is reached although it will be interesting to see how the section under the town bridge is dealt with. Regards Guy Vincent
1) A large vibrating drill breaks up the road formation which is then cleared away by the same machine using the shovel attachment. The rails are then flame-cut into short sections.
2, 3 and 4) The excavator comes in and pulls up each short section of track that has been flame-cut to approx 4-5 sleeper lengths.
5, 6) The released section is turned upside down on the previous section and any remaining sizeable chunks of concrete etc are knocked away.
8, 9) Periodically the sections are removed from site to the Quay compound for final dismantling and removal.
11) Signal DR196 protecting Weymouth Junction from any movement off the Quay branch. Never to show a green 'proceed' aspect again..
Old BR relic once used inside carriages on services to and from the Quay (self-explanatory!)
Once clear of track the void is infilled and new tarmac laid, rolled and painted up. Within days there will be no evidence that a railway ever existed here.
The concrete sleepers are Dow Mac type E1 or E4 and were manufactured between 1944 and 1954. Bullhead chairs are used with (Bullhead) rails and inner guide rails. I would guess that the line was relaid in the early to mid 1950s just prior to the introduction of diesel traction when other improvements were made (see CRS website). Undoubtedly the highlight in more recent times was the use of class 37 locos on the branch, at 107 tons quite an achievement! Over the years I witnessed several trains working over the line, starting in 1983-4 with Western Region 3 car DMU sets and class 33 locos on the 'Channel Islands Boat Train'. Then various 33s and 73s on charters and a couple of the 37s in 1993. Such a shame but no real surprise that the route is now being consigned to history.
Guy Vincent
2, 3 and 4) The excavator comes in and pulls up each short section of track that has been flame-cut to approx 4-5 sleeper lengths.
5, 6) The released section is turned upside down on the previous section and any remaining sizeable chunks of concrete etc are knocked away.
8, 9) Periodically the sections are removed from site to the Quay compound for final dismantling and removal.
11) Signal DR196 protecting Weymouth Junction from any movement off the Quay branch. Never to show a green 'proceed' aspect again..
Old BR relic once used inside carriages on services to and from the Quay (self-explanatory!)
Once clear of track the void is infilled and new tarmac laid, rolled and painted up. Within days there will be no evidence that a railway ever existed here.
The concrete sleepers are Dow Mac type E1 or E4 and were manufactured between 1944 and 1954. Bullhead chairs are used with (Bullhead) rails and inner guide rails. I would guess that the line was relaid in the early to mid 1950s just prior to the introduction of diesel traction when other improvements were made (see CRS website). Undoubtedly the highlight in more recent times was the use of class 37 locos on the branch, at 107 tons quite an achievement! Over the years I witnessed several trains working over the line, starting in 1983-4 with Western Region 3 car DMU sets and class 33 locos on the 'Channel Islands Boat Train'. Then various 33s and 73s on charters and a couple of the 37s in 1993. Such a shame but no real surprise that the route is now being consigned to history.
Guy Vincent
An update from John Smerdon on the demolition:- Yesterday (1st November 2020) my daughter and family went to Weymouth. My son in law, Fred Fane, took the opportunity to take some more pictures on my behalf of the tramway track removal. The contractors are progressing quickly and have removed the track all along Commercial Road to a short distance beyond the Debenhams store and close to the multi-storey car park. It will not be long before they leave Commercial Road and enter Cosens Quay car park beside the southern end of the marina. Please feel free to use whatever photos you like for your feature. If lockdown permits I will try and return next week and get some pictures as they progress towards Town Bridge and along Customs House Quay.
Regards, John Smerdon
Regards, John Smerdon
Many thanks to Fred Fame for providing us with an update.
It looks as if this is where our coverage might have ended due to the Covid 19 Restrictions preventing travel. Anybody with pictures of the continuing demolition is welcome to send them in - credit will, of course be given. Fortunately Guy Vincent stepped in with pictures taken on the 5th November 2020.
John Smerdon continues the sad tale with pictures taken the 20th November 2020
Following on from Guy Vincent’s informative article and photos taken on the 5th November, I have attached several more photos taken yesterday in the sunshine. Work is now taking place between the Ship Inn and the Customs House and involves the destruction and removal of both tracks, so that is slowing progress. The track nearest the water has been hidden from view for many years although a hint of rail could just be seen in a few places where the layer of tarmac had worn thin. No work has taken place from just inside the entrance to Cosens car park, near Debenham’s and along the road as far as the junction with St Mary Street, beside the Royal Oak pub. The section of track under the bridge has not been removed yet, due to high tides creating some flooding. There is some good news!! I was told by one of the workers that the track within Cosens car park is to remain untouched. I suspect that as the track is surrounded by block paving it does not warrant the expense of reinstatement of the surface.
Kind regards,
John Smerdon. Many thanks to John for this Latest update.
Following on from Guy Vincent’s informative article and photos taken on the 5th November, I have attached several more photos taken yesterday in the sunshine. Work is now taking place between the Ship Inn and the Customs House and involves the destruction and removal of both tracks, so that is slowing progress. The track nearest the water has been hidden from view for many years although a hint of rail could just be seen in a few places where the layer of tarmac had worn thin. No work has taken place from just inside the entrance to Cosens car park, near Debenham’s and along the road as far as the junction with St Mary Street, beside the Royal Oak pub. The section of track under the bridge has not been removed yet, due to high tides creating some flooding. There is some good news!! I was told by one of the workers that the track within Cosens car park is to remain untouched. I suspect that as the track is surrounded by block paving it does not warrant the expense of reinstatement of the surface.
Kind regards,
John Smerdon. Many thanks to John for this Latest update.
Guy Vincent Reports on the Demolition progress as on 12th January 2021
Work took me to Weymouth today where an hour was available to catch up with progress on the removal of the former tramway.
Starting at the ferry terminal the redundant track stored there from October onwards has all been removed. Track still remains in-situ in the terminal area but removal has been completed in the road leading to it (pics 1 & 2). The remains of several wooden sleepers could be seen. From the Royal Oak Inn to the paved car parking area behind the multi storey and Debenhams the rails are still in place, including the roadway under the town bridge. From Debenhams to the Bus station all traces of the tramway have been removed. Beyond this point most of the track remains in place, much dilapidated, up to the main line connection at Weymouth Junction.
Guy Vincent
Starting at the ferry terminal the redundant track stored there from October onwards has all been removed. Track still remains in-situ in the terminal area but removal has been completed in the road leading to it (pics 1 & 2). The remains of several wooden sleepers could be seen. From the Royal Oak Inn to the paved car parking area behind the multi storey and Debenhams the rails are still in place, including the roadway under the town bridge. From Debenhams to the Bus station all traces of the tramway have been removed. Beyond this point most of the track remains in place, much dilapidated, up to the main line connection at Weymouth Junction.
Guy Vincent
Guy Vincent Reports on the Demolition progress
as on 11th March 2021
as on 11th March 2021
An hour in Weymouth today gave me time to walk the route of the former tramway. Since my last visit in January the job looks to be all but finished with the rails now gone from beneath the town bridge and all public roadways. Further resurfacing has been carried out and for 90% of the distance between and the ferry terminal there is no evidence the line ever existed. At the terminal itself it appears demolition could be imminent as the area has been fenced off and signs of stripping-out inside the main building can be seen. RIP Weymouth Tramway.
I've added four pictures of railtours on the line taken in the 1980s and 1990s.
Guy Vincent.
I've added four pictures of railtours on the line taken in the 1980s and 1990s.
Guy Vincent.
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Quite recent views by Trevor Tremethick. 5th July 2008
Recent views by Roger Salter.
The Weymouth Quay Tramway was relaid in 1952. From old photographs taken in 1951 the building with an upper bay window painted black was then occupied by the Corporation Harbourmaster and the Port Officer of the National Dock Labour Board. The tall building next but one has been converted into appartments. From its early years it was a bank, then the Marine Hotel and then the Edward Hotel. Copyright Roger Salter
Recent views by Paul Barlow. 25th July 2020
One final look at the 'Good Old days' - Paul Barlow.
Many thanks Paul
The Tramway 2021
Courtesy of John Smerdon we return again in April 2021 to take a look at the Quay station site.
Courtesy of John Smerdon we return again in April 2021 to take a look at the Quay station site.
KJ had written to John Smerdon asking if there was any news concerning the remains of the tramway,
John replied - What a coincidence!! I read your email earlier this evening having just returned from a visit to Weymouth with my wife today. Plenty of nice sunshine, but very windy. I Walked along the quay to the site of the terminus station and took a couple of photos. The platform still survives along with some track in the car park, but the station building has been completely demolished. I think if it was intended to remove the track it would have been gone by now?
John replied - What a coincidence!! I read your email earlier this evening having just returned from a visit to Weymouth with my wife today. Plenty of nice sunshine, but very windy. I Walked along the quay to the site of the terminus station and took a couple of photos. The platform still survives along with some track in the car park, but the station building has been completely demolished. I think if it was intended to remove the track it would have been gone by now?
Many many thanks to all who have added to this wonderful record of Weymouth's Street Tramway.
For yet more Street Tramway pictures - please go to our section on the tramway - click here.
For yet more Street Tramway pictures - please go to our section on the tramway - click here.
2022
'Cornish Riviera Statesman'
- Three days of luxury.
'Cornish Riviera Statesman'
- Three days of luxury.
Photographs by Paul Barlow Clive Smith Craig Munday Mike House
Roger Salter Andrew Triggs Jon Hird Julian Stephens Keith Jenkin
& Roger Winnen
Roger Salter Andrew Triggs Jon Hird Julian Stephens Keith Jenkin
& Roger Winnen
Friday 25th September 2020
Saturday 26th September 2020
47593 is on the front of the 1Z80 09.20 Penzance - Kingwear via Exeter 'Cornish Riviera Statesman' on 26th September 2020. Green 47805 top and tailing on the rear and out of shot. Perfect sun all morning of course except for seven minutes when a dark grey slab of cloud passed over where I was stood in expectation of a great sunlit shot with the sun behind me. Unbelievable. Copyright Clive Smith.
Sunday 27th September 2020
Many many thanks to Roger Winnen who put together this record of over 70 images which represents a wonderful weekend. Roger spent about 15 hours on Sunday putting it all together. Also many thanks to all our contributors - without your efforts we'd be all the poorer.
2021 Dawlish - All Change.
Clive Smith takes a look at Dawlish in the recent past , in September 2020 and will follow up with pictures of the reconstruction.
Clive Smith takes a look at Dawlish in the recent past , in September 2020 and will follow up with pictures of the reconstruction.
Part One 7th September 2020. Well the day has arrived.The Dawlish station we have come to love for so many years is about to get a radical transformation starting on Monday 7th September 2020 to provide facilities for the disabled with a lift and new footbridge and a huge rebuilding to protect it from the sea with a raised promenade between the station and the sea. I have taken the odd random photos here over forty years but on Saturday 5th I took the opportunity to focus on what will be lost and record it for posterity. A weekend off, a good weather forecast and a high tide at 08.55 meant this was now or never. Here are five pictures showing a variety of traction during the morning's activities at this gem of a station on this iconic stretch of railway. Part 2 will focus on the infrastructure that will soon disappear. Please use the link below to see the planned development https://www.google.com/search?q=Dawlish+railway+station+major+improvement+plans+approved&oq=Dawlish+railway+station+major+improvement+plans+approved&aqs=chrome..69i57j69i60.3473j0j15&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
(2) Pacer 143603 and a 150 cross the Colonnade Viaduct over the small stream Dawlish Water with the 08.15 Paignton - Exmouth. The pacers are seemingly on endless borrowed time but the bridge is to be replaced and there will be no more barrow crossings. The area to the left of the bridge and under it is to be revamped. The recent alterations to the sea wall along Marine Parade can be seen between the tracks and the sea. Copyright Clive Smith
(3) An unidentified 150 leading 150216 arrives at the station with the 08.25 Exmouth - Paignton. Built out over the sea wall with wooden fencing this used to be a wooden plaform in my memory which goes back a bit. The walkway along the sea wall goes under the platform. This will soon be replaced by a new taller sea wall incorporating a high-level wider and safer public promenade. Gone will be the days when I had to make a dash in between breaking waves at high tide to walk along the sea wall here. Won't be half as fun as getting a good soaking due to poor judgement. Copyright Clive Smith.
Part Two. Following on from my previous feature on trains passing through the station, here are some photos from 5th September 2020 showing the station from the sea wall. Large boats will be arriving soon with piledriving equipment and rigs will be built that will be twice the size of the ones that were used to repair the sea wall breach in 2014. RegardsClive Smith (1) Dawlish Station & Colonnade Viaduct From The Stone Jetty. (2) Dawlish Station Down Platform & Sea Wall From The Stone Jetty. (3) This pigeon is understandably dejected as it is soon to lose this perch with a view on the platform fence not to mention the many roosts they occupy directly underneath in the eves above the sea wall path. (4) The Sea Wall Footpath Underneath Dawlish Station Down Platform. (5) The Sea Wall Footpath Alongside Dawlish Station. (6) Coastguard's Footbridge & Sea Wall Dawlish
Many thanks Clive
2020 History of the Ruthern Bridge Branch by Andrew Jones.
(Whose house predates the line!!)
(Whose house predates the line!!)
The Ruthernbridge Railway could have been an important part of the Cornish railway network, if the aims of the ‘Cornwall Mineral and Bodmin & Wadebridge Junction Railway’ had come to fruition. Initially proposed as part of the Central Cornwall Railway in 1865, please see attached notice. Authorisation was given on 5th August 1873 to build a railway from Ruthernbridge to Roche, some 5 ¼ miles. Unfortunately the proposed Wenfordbridge to Delabole railway authorised on the same day were both subsequently abandoned on the 28th March 1878. The Ruthernbridge Branch was relatively short at just 1mile 8 chains, with sand drops at the terminus cut back to a loop in 1926 which could accommodate 8 wagons. Various publications state that the cottage adjacent the Terminus was the oldest railway station in the country. (sadly demolished many years ago, but the rose that climbed the porch is still there!) From my research it appears that following retirement from duty on suburban services out of Waterloo, Beattie Well tanks built in 1863 were transferred to Wadebridge in 1895 and provided motive power over the line. There appears a little confusion over which locomotives were based at Wadebridge but 0314 and 0329 were certainly used although there is reference to 0298 so I am not sure if any members could clarify if this was a locomotive or just a reference to the class. Again it is difficult to be sure but previous to this period it is likely that two locomotives built by Joseph & Potts four coupled tender engines named ‘Ajax’ no41 and ‘Atlas’ no 42 built in 1840 possibly travelled to Ruthernbridge. There is also mention of an 040 saddle tank built by Fletcher and Jennings named ‘Bodmin’ which continued in service until July 1893. Its also possible that the original engines ‘Camel’ and ‘Elephant’ built by Neath Abbey Iron Company visited the branch. Traffic from Ruthernbridge was mainly from Mulberry Pit consisting of Iron ore, lead, tin and stone. Incoming goods were grain, manure, foodstuffs and coal for the Withiel area. One of the last references to mining in the area appeared in the Cornish Guardian. This was the liquidation of the Stannaries Mining and Smelting Company. On the 5th June 1914 an auction was held at Grogley which included amongst many items, 300 feet of rail, 4 thousand firebricks, 5 tip wagons, 31 shovels and 13 picks. I can find no reference of Horses being used to haul wagons although for a short period a tramway was used from the Mulberry area to transport materials but was not physically connected to the Ruthernbridge railway. Unlike the Wenfordbridge Railway the Ruthernbridge Branch was generally free of sharp curves as Illustrated by the Ordnance maps courtesy of the Museum of Scotland. Originally laid on granite sleepers to the standard gauge using 42lb rails in various lengths from 15 to 18 feet supplied from Ebbw Vale. Recently some timber extraction using part of the trackbed has uncovered the original granite sleepers. (please see attached photograph. It appears that they have survived due in part to partial or complete relaying of the branch possibly in the late 1800’s. Photographs of the Branch are very rare, but during my investigation I came across a series of articles published by the Railway Magazine in 1934 celebrating the then 100th anniversary of the Bodmin and Wadebridge. On pages 258 and 259 of the Railway Magazine, October 1934 edition, I found something I have been searching for many years, 7 photographs of the branch all showing that the line was relaid with wooden sleepers which had been installed over the granite sleepers possibly to avoid disturbance of the original earthworks and save money. The original photographs were taken by A.Earle Edwards and D S Barrie. I know copyright is an issue so I have sent them to the society for reference, but for legal reasons we are unable to reproduce them on the website.
The last train sadly ran on the 29th November 1933 driven by Mr Cross and fireman Arthur Ferret. Rails were removed in 1934 narrowly missing the centenary. As usual if there are any errors please do not hesitate to advise. My house overlooks the railway and pre dates the line by 20 years having been ‘Built and enclosed by Joseph Kestell in 1814’ wouldn’t Joseph have some wonderful stories to tell!
The last train sadly ran on the 29th November 1933 driven by Mr Cross and fireman Arthur Ferret. Rails were removed in 1934 narrowly missing the centenary. As usual if there are any errors please do not hesitate to advise. My house overlooks the railway and pre dates the line by 20 years having been ‘Built and enclosed by Joseph Kestell in 1814’ wouldn’t Joseph have some wonderful stories to tell!
With many thanks to Andrew and Diane Jones.
Item 2019
The 'Royal Duchy' 30th August 2020
Most probably the last mainline steam in
Devon & Cornwall for 2020
The 'Royal Duchy' 30th August 2020
Most probably the last mainline steam in
Devon & Cornwall for 2020
Outward 44871 Bristol Temple Meads-Yatton-Taunton- Tiverton Loop (Water) Exeter St David's Newton Abbot (Water) Plymouth where 47804 headed the train to Par.
44871 Was stabled in No 2 Dock after turning on the Laira Triangle coupling to its support coach on its return.
Return 47804 Par-Plymouth. On arrival the diesel detached from the train and eventually coupled up to the rear. Departure from Plymouth at 18.54 44871 called at Exeter ST David's for water-Taunton-Yatton and Bristol Temple Meads.
44871 Was stabled in No 2 Dock after turning on the Laira Triangle coupling to its support coach on its return.
Return 47804 Par-Plymouth. On arrival the diesel detached from the train and eventually coupled up to the rear. Departure from Plymouth at 18.54 44871 called at Exeter ST David's for water-Taunton-Yatton and Bristol Temple Meads.
An anonymous comment it would have looked nicer with a 'Royal Duchy' headboard and proper lamps.
With many thanks to all our photographers for a fine record of fine event on a very fine day.
Item 2018 The Ponts Mill Derailment
10th March 2005
10th March 2005
The following came in a note from Nathan Stockman together with a very useful link - As for the derailment, this was 9th March 2005, long after the wagon works at Ponts Mill had finished. The report can be found here: https://www.railwaysarchive.co.uk/docsummary.php?docID=525 One of the interesting things to happen during the recovery was the IMERYS class 08 made a trip down from Goonbarrow to remove the unaffected vehicles from the rear of the train.
The Ponts Mill derailment.
A report by Stephen Heginbotham the duty incident officer.
A report by Stephen Heginbotham the duty incident officer.
I was one of the Duty Incident Officers, as the incident stretched over a few days and I did some preliminary investigation work, including downloading the voice tapes, which clearly demonstrated the shock in the Drivers and Signallers voice. The power of the loco dragged the derailed wagons over part of the viaduct to the position you see in the photographs. I can see that there is a link to the official report, which would show (if memory serves) that undetected rot deep inside the longitudinal viaduct timbers (which had recently been inspected) allowed the tie-bars to move and thus spread the track wide to gauge. Whilst the rot was the root cause, the heavy punishment of the CDA wagons, especially on bends, was a secondary factor. Whenever there were derailments of freight in Cornwall, CDAs were usually involved! A heavy crane was brought in (but struggled down the narrow access lane) and lifted and placed the wagons onto the old siding, where they eventually were made safe to be tripped for unloading. Some clay was lost into the river, but not a vast amount, and this was cleaned up. The wagons had to be secured before lifting so as not to allow the remaining ones to slip into the river, when the couplings were cut. As a consequence of the repairs, a temporary speed restriction was imposed, and this too gave problems, as it prevented the trains of empties taking a run at the bank. So some were top and tailed, and some were a shorter formation. Whilst the Imerys 08 was allowed a temporary licence to transport the rear wagons back to Goonbarrow, it is interesting to note that it was not powerful enough to take 8 or even 6 and slipped to a stand and overheated after a short distance. The train was split into manageable chunks of four I think and the remaining CDAs pinned down, chocked and chained to the rails. The biggest problem was on the return journey, when buffering up on such a steep gradient. Regards Steve Heginbotham
Item 2017 The Centenary of the P.D.& S.W Jct Railway
The Centenary of the Plymouth Devonport & South Western Junction Railway at Bere Ferrers Station on 2nd & 3rd June.1990.Roger Winnen
The Centenary of the Plymouth Devonport & South Western Junction Railway at Bere Ferrers Station on 2nd & 3rd June.1990.Roger Winnen
Item 2016 Falmouth Dockyard Railway. Lt. Philip Boak R.N.
Falmouth docks. Falmouth docks are deep-water docks located within the Fal Estuary, Cornwall, the third largest natural harbour in the world. The docks were opened in 1860, proving a major asset to the town and local business. The docks have evolved over time, with the creation and modification of new dry-docks, wharves and jetties, as the series of photos in Figure 1 illustrate. The docks have primarily been involved in ship repair and maintenance, including a large number of tankers post World War Two. Falmouth docks remain an important centre for ship repair, operated by A&P Falmouth, with the Pendennis Shipyard also occupying part of the site.
Falmouth Dockyard Railway. The Falmouth Dock Company Railway opened in 1864, connecting the port to Truro and beyond. The original was broad gauge, being converted to standard gauge in 1892. Steam locomotives operated on the railway until effectively retiring in 1986. Thereafter, an 0-4-0 Sentinel Diesel continued work within the dockyard. All internal rail traffic ceased by 1995. However, much can still be observed of the railway system and dockyard infrastructure, as illustrated by the following nine pairs of ‘before and after’ photographs
Pair 1 Copyright Trevor Tremethick (left) and Philip Boak (right)
Before (1977). Engine No. 3 proceeding south adjacent to County Wharf, towards the dock exit.
After (2020). The track and points still prominent today.
After (2020). The track and points still prominent today.
Pair 2. Copyright Trevor Tremethick (left) and Philip Boak (right)
Before (1977). Engine No. 3 proceeding south with the large Engine Shop and Stores Building in the background.
After (2020). The scene very much unchanged today.
After (2020). The scene very much unchanged today.
Pair 3 Copyright Trevor Tremethick (left and Philip Boak (right))
Before (1977). Engine No. 3 passes the White-Metalling Shop.
After (2020). A short section of track is still visible. Note the Bailey crane in the background, which was installed in 2004.
After (2020). A short section of track is still visible. Note the Bailey crane in the background, which was installed in 2004.
Pair 4. Copyright The late Sid Sponheimer (left) and Philip Boak (right))
Before (c1964). Engine No. 3 approaches the Queen Elizabeth Dock. The dock was built in 1864, but significantly enlarged and reopened in 1958. Note the two Stothert and Pitt cranes, the larger of which spectacularly collapsed in 2017.
After (2020). The RFA vessel Mounts Bay in the Queen Elizabeth Dock. The route of the railway is clearly visible in both the left corner and right corner.
After (2020). The RFA vessel Mounts Bay in the Queen Elizabeth Dock. The route of the railway is clearly visible in both the left corner and right corner.
Pair 5 Copyright The late Sid Sponheimer (left) and Philip Boak (right).
Before (c1964). A tanker is undergoing repairs in the smaller No. 1 Dock (right) adjacent to the Queen Elizabeth Dock (left). Engine No. 6 can be seen in the foreground proceeding west.
After (2020). The No. 1 Dock has now been completely covered over and is operated by Pendennis Shipyard, for the construction, repair and maintenance of luxury yachts. No. 1 dock is 150m long, but able to be split into two 75m sections. Mounts Bay can be seen alongside in the adjacent Queen Elizabeth Dock.
After (2020). The No. 1 Dock has now been completely covered over and is operated by Pendennis Shipyard, for the construction, repair and maintenance of luxury yachts. No. 1 dock is 150m long, but able to be split into two 75m sections. Mounts Bay can be seen alongside in the adjacent Queen Elizabeth Dock.
Pair 6 Copyright Trevor Tremethick (left) and Philip Boak (right)
Before (1977). Engine No. 3 coming off Kings Wharf.
After (2020). The scene today with the central causeway leading to Queens Wharf in the background. Both Kings Wharf and the adjacent Empire Wharf were demolished in 2006, with the intention to build a 500-berth marina on the site. Queens Wharf suffered a major fire in 2003, after which it was significantly rebuilt.
After (2020). The scene today with the central causeway leading to Queens Wharf in the background. Both Kings Wharf and the adjacent Empire Wharf were demolished in 2006, with the intention to build a 500-berth marina on the site. Queens Wharf suffered a major fire in 2003, after which it was significantly rebuilt.
Pair 7 Copyright Trevor Tremethick (left) and Philip Boak (right).
Before (1977). Engine No. 3 shunts an oil waste collector adjacent to Castle Drive Cliff. Much of the cliff face was excavated 1956-1958 during the construction of the Queen Elizabeth Dock .
After (2020). A remaining oil waste collector, in the vicinity of Duchy Wharf. The wharf was completed in 1956, and is still able to accommodate large merchant vessels, being 240m long and 8m deep.
After (2020). A remaining oil waste collector, in the vicinity of Duchy Wharf. The wharf was completed in 1956, and is still able to accommodate large merchant vessels, being 240m long and 8m deep.
Pair 8 Copyright Nigel Tambling (left) and Philip Boak (right)
Before (c1980s). Engine No. 6 passing in front of the Maintenance Shop.
After (2020). Various tankers and trucks parked in front of the shop today.
After (2020). Various tankers and trucks parked in front of the shop today.
Pair 9 Copyright Paul Bartlett (left) and Philip Boak (right)
Before (1988). Sentinel Diesel No. 129 in front of the Stores Building and Engine Shop. The diesel operated 1986-1995.
After (2020). The scene today.
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After (2020). The scene today.
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The locomotives today. Both Engine No. 3 and No. 6, which have been depicted in several of the ‘before’ photos, were preserved on their retirement in 1986, with a short history of each below.
Engine No. 3 (Hawthorn and Leslie Works No. 3597) 0-4-0ST (Photo: Roger Marter). This locomotive was built in 1926 by Hawthorn Leslie for Falmouth Docks and Engineering Co Ltd. It remained working until August 1986, when the dock bid ‘farewell to steam’. The locomotive is currently undergoing restoration by Vintage Trains, before hopefully being operated by a heritage railway operator.
Engine No. 6 (Peckett and Sons Works No. 1530) 0-4-0ST (Photo: Chris Allen). This locomotive was built in 1919 by Peckett and Sons and delivered to the CWS Soap Works near Irlam. The Soap Works ceased to use its rail connection in the 1960s, and the locomotive was sold to Falmouth Docks in 1968. The locomotive was retired in 1986, and is now on display at the Poldark Mine.
Acknowledgements With thanks to Keith Jenkin, Trevor Tremethick, the late Sid Sponheimer, Nigel Tambling, Paul Bartlett, Chris Allen, Roger Marter, David Barnicoat, David Quayle (Preservedbritishsteamlocomotives.com), Mark Dewell (Heritage-Railways.com). A&P Falmouth, The National Maritime Museum Cornwall (NMMC), The Falmouth Packet.
Also our sincere thanks to Philip Boak an active serving Royal Navy Officer who has taken the time and trouble to put together for us this very comprehensive report on the history of the Falmouth Dockyard Railway.
Additional Information on the development of the Dockyard Locomotives
Karl Hewlett.
We are also most grateful to Karl Hewlett who has provided us with further details of the history of the construction and fate of the Dockyard Locomotives.
Both Lt. Boak and Trevor Tremethick appreciate this additional information on the fleet of Dockyard Locomotives.
Karl Hewlett.
We are also most grateful to Karl Hewlett who has provided us with further details of the history of the construction and fate of the Dockyard Locomotives.
Both Lt. Boak and Trevor Tremethick appreciate this additional information on the fleet of Dockyard Locomotives.
The first engines that ran on the docks system were two c1860 7ft 01/4inch gauge 0-4-0 vertical boiled tank loco's made by 'Sara & Burgess LTD' (a very little known builder from Falmouth 1857 to 1918), they are No 1 "Blackbird" and No 2 "Torbay", these two were joined by a third Sara & Burgess built loco second hand No 3 "Billy". These loco's were later converted to 4 foot 8 1/2 inch in line with the GWR's re-gauging of the west and were noted in the 'Iron Journal' as being converted to narrow on 15th January 1892. A fourth similar loco also constructed by Sara & Burgess was started in 1914, but not delivered until c1920 due to World War One and was unnamed. The loco's are believed to have carried on working at the docks complex until 1926 and 1930 for No 4, interestingly the boiler off No 4 was purchased by 'Falmouth Technical School' when scrapped but what has happened to it since I don't know. In need of some new loco's Falmouth Docks approached a fine maker of industrial locomotives (not in any way biased!), of 'Hawthorn Leslie' at their St. Peters works on the Northumberland banks of the River Tyne who built four loco's No 1 works number 3648, No 2 works number 3598, No 3 works number 3597 and No 4 works number 3670. No's 1 to 3 were completed between the first and the eighth months of 1926 and No 4 on the eleventh month of 1927. In March 1955 for reasons why this happened I don't know a bit of what the preservation world calls skulduggery happened between the identity of two loco's, No 3 became No 1 and No 1 became No 3! In October 1961 two more loco's were obtained second hand from 'Wholesale Society LTD's' margarine works at Higher Irlam in Lancashire, No 5 works number 1632 built by 'Hudswell Clarke' of Leeds in February 1929 and No 6 works number 1530 was built by 'Peckett' of Bristol in December 1919. All loco's were registered to work on BR metals at the transfer sidings next to Falmouth Docks station. The steam locos were gradually withdrawn over a period of time with No 1 and No 2 in August 1961, No 3 in August 1987, No 4 in May 1967, No 5 around 1978 and No 6 in December 1978. This was not the end however of loco's being based at the docks as in 1978 they acquired their first diesel loco built by 'Sentinel' of Shrewsbury, again of an 0-4-0 wheel arrangement works number 10129 and new in 1963 to 'British Steel' at their Skinningrove Works then in Cleveland now classed as North Yorkshire. The yellow livery and large black 129 numbers are from its days at Skinningrove and this loco soldiered on until 1995 when it too was withdrawn, although under a grey cloud as its 'Rolls Royce' power unit had only been rebuilt around six months before withdrawal. This loco was also registered to work on BR metals. Fortunately Nos 3, 5 and 6 have been preserved, No 129 was sold for scrap going to 'West Country Metals' in Redruth who later sold it to 'Henry Orchard' a scrap dealer at Methrose Works, Carne Cross, Par. Another twist of fate has happened again because Mr. Orchard liked No 129 so much he was quoted as saying he would not scrap it. I have tried to Google Earth and Street View the scrapyard, but I cannot get a good enough view to make out if it is still there? The loco was still in one piece in 1998 but after that it remains a mystery. With regards to Falmouth Docks station its Brunel timber trainshed roof was at one point the largest single span roof of any building in Europe and as pointed out in the article was taken down in 1957.
Regards Karl (Friends Of Penmere Station).
Regards Karl (Friends Of Penmere Station).
Many thanks Karl for the above valuable information.