Around Plymouth Station today
Roger Winnen
Roger Winnen
221128a The downward path to Mutley Station which closed 3rd July 1939. Copyright Roger Winnen
221128b An IET Departs Plymouth for London Paddington seen passing the ramps leading to the former Mutley Station which closed 3rd July 1939 to allow widening work to the approaches of rebuilding Plymouth Station. Copyright Roger Winnen
221128c 66129 on the Railhead Treatment train passing through Plymouth. Copyright Roger Winnen
221128d 66105 is seen on the rear of the train passing on the through line. Copyright Roger Winnen
It may not be as far as you think!
Colin Burges
Colin Burges
With the help of Railway Codes, the wonderful resource that holds all the "Engineer's Line References," I have made some sense of the Plymouth mileage change, which used to be - or may still be - marked by this board.
It's cropped like this to show its position relative to the staff club. Copyright Colin Burges
Copyright Colin Burges.
The distance from North Road Junction (east of the former triangle) to Millbay and back to Cornwall Loop Junction was 1 m. 34 ch. From North Road Junction direct to Cornwall Loop Junction is 21 chains. The discrepancy in the modern main line is therefore 1 m. 13 ch.
North Road Junction was 246 m. 8 ch.; Cornwall Loop Junction was 246 m. 29 ch. A point between them for some reason was chosen as the mileage "junction."
The line starts seven chains from the original blocks at Paddington. The new line from Wearde is two chains longer than the old one. Another two chains are gained between Baldhu and Chacewater. By my reckoning, altogether, that makes Penzance, not 326 m. 50 ch., but 325 m. 34 ch. But I'll happily be corrected.
I'm not going to look at the Berks & Hants!
The Great Western was one of only two companies, pre-grouping, to have a milepost 300. Which was the other company?
Colin
North Road Junction was 246 m. 8 ch.; Cornwall Loop Junction was 246 m. 29 ch. A point between them for some reason was chosen as the mileage "junction."
The line starts seven chains from the original blocks at Paddington. The new line from Wearde is two chains longer than the old one. Another two chains are gained between Baldhu and Chacewater. By my reckoning, altogether, that makes Penzance, not 326 m. 50 ch., but 325 m. 34 ch. But I'll happily be corrected.
I'm not going to look at the Berks & Hants!
The Great Western was one of only two companies, pre-grouping, to have a milepost 300. Which was the other company?
Colin
Many thanks Colin for giving us the results of your research.
Many thanks to Roy Hart for his response.
Dear Keith,
In response to Colin's challenge (above), my guess is the London and North Western (pre-group line with mileposts 300 miles plus).
Cheers, Roy Hart.
In response to Colin's challenge (above), my guess is the London and North Western (pre-group line with mileposts 300 miles plus).
Cheers, Roy Hart.
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Plymouth engine?
Trevor Tremethick
Trevor Tremethick
Hi Keith and Roger,
Barbara and I took a flip up to the Birmingham NEC for the Warley Model Railway Show. The centrepiece was the new-build 3MT 2-6-2T No. 82045, up on a low-loader so not too many bodies in the way. I know that some were based at Taunton and Newton Abbot, so we can call them West Country engines. I’m sure I remember seeing one in Plymouth when I was about 5. I wonder if, had steam continued, they would have percolated down to the far West?
My first trip to Warley and very impressive I must say. Lots of stands and all the usual suspects present (Hornby, Bachmann et al). A really good video presentation by Pete Waterman in person on his O Gauge Leamington Spa project.
Best wishes to all, Trevor Tremethick
Barbara and I took a flip up to the Birmingham NEC for the Warley Model Railway Show. The centrepiece was the new-build 3MT 2-6-2T No. 82045, up on a low-loader so not too many bodies in the way. I know that some were based at Taunton and Newton Abbot, so we can call them West Country engines. I’m sure I remember seeing one in Plymouth when I was about 5. I wonder if, had steam continued, they would have percolated down to the far West?
My first trip to Warley and very impressive I must say. Lots of stands and all the usual suspects present (Hornby, Bachmann et al). A really good video presentation by Pete Waterman in person on his O Gauge Leamington Spa project.
Best wishes to all, Trevor Tremethick
82045 at Warley 2022. Copyright Trevor Tremethick
82045 at Warley 2022. Copyright Trevor Tremethick
In reply to Trevors article on the 82xxx Class I remember seeing one of the early members of the class in Plymouth Station when we were travelling to Exeter on a new DMU from Penzance in the early 1960s.
However we thought about changing onto the Southern Train for Exeter via Okehampton but remained on this new DMU for the view.
Its to late now!
All the best for now and many thanks
Roger Winnen
Portihead AGM
Peter Maliphant
Peter Maliphant
Dear Member,
We’re pleased to confirm the return of our Annual General Meeting to be held on Tuesday 6th December 2022. We are delighted that James Willcock, MetroWest Phase One Project Manager, will join us to speak about what happens next after the successful completion of the DCO process.
Doors will open at the Folk Hall, Portishead from 7.00pm with the meeting starting at 7.30pm. You’ll find the usual agenda below.
Just a reminder - if you change your e-mail address, please don’t forget to let us know.
Thanks for your support over the past year. We hope to see you at the AGM.
Regards, Peter Maliphant, Membership Secretary
We’re pleased to confirm the return of our Annual General Meeting to be held on Tuesday 6th December 2022. We are delighted that James Willcock, MetroWest Phase One Project Manager, will join us to speak about what happens next after the successful completion of the DCO process.
Doors will open at the Folk Hall, Portishead from 7.00pm with the meeting starting at 7.30pm. You’ll find the usual agenda below.
Just a reminder - if you change your e-mail address, please don’t forget to let us know.
Thanks for your support over the past year. We hope to see you at the AGM.
Regards, Peter Maliphant, Membership Secretary
Many thanks Peter - Best of luck with your meeting.