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20th November 2022

20/11/2022

An illusion ? from
Reading
Paul Roach

It was interesting to see this train seemingly balancing on the edge of the platform early one morning at Reading, one platform must be higher than the rest or I was seeing things. Great to see Kevin on the train for a little while. All the best to all at Trevingey!
Paul

Reading - copyright Paul Roach.

Many thanks Paul - is this an optical illusion.

Class 40 in Cornwall on Saturday 9th November 1985
Roger Winnen

Hello Craig
Hello Craig in answer to your enquiry of a Class 31431 standing on the Devon side of the Royal Albert Bridge I regret that I have no knowledge of this in my photo collection. However the same month the first Class 40 40122 arrived at Penzance on the 03.00 from Manchester.

851109d 40122 The first Class 40 to arrive at Penzance this being the 03.00 from Manchester. Copyright Roger Winnen

851109e Penzance rush hour as the train empties out. Copyright Roger Winnen

851109g 40122 Up to the buffer stopa. Copyright Roger Winnen

The returning special seen at Carn Brea. Copyright Roger Winnen

A going away shot approaching the former junction of the Portreath Branch which closed in 1936. Copyright Roger Winnen

Class 31 in Cornwall?
Royal Albert bridge
Craig Munday

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Hi Keith
I hope you are well?
I've sent a Twitter link to you of 31431 apparently stood on the Devon side of the RAB with a short engineering train. Dated November 1985 I wonder if any of our readers remembers it. Did it start from St Blazey?
Another one for Rogers digest, unless it only worked to here wrong Road of course in a possession.
Best wishes , Craig

One for Roger or anybody else who can answer - many thanks Craig.

19th November 2022

19/11/2022

Vobster Light Railway
Brain Cuttell

Hello,
I came across your CRS website while looking for photos of the Vobster Light Railway and i can add some details to the Vobster Light Railway section.
After the VOR closed in 1994 the exhibits were stored in the Radstock area for a few years. Henry & Mary Frampton-Jones moved to Derbyshire and set up the two-foot gauge Derbyshire Dales Narrow Gauge Railway at Rowsley at the Peak Rail site. They moved their locos and rolling stock from Radstock to Rowsley from 1998 onwards and began running trains at Rowsley in 2004 using ex-Vobster Ruston 487963 & Ruston 393325 'top & tailing' the red coach No2. DDNGR trains were suspended from 2015 due to Henry's health problems and most of the exhibits have since moved elsewhere since Henry passed away a few years ago. However, the ex-Vobster coach No2 remains at Rowsley and has been used by the Ashover Light Railway Society in 2022 who have laid a short narrow-gauge line here.
CRS Photos:
The yellow loco with the 'unnamed gentleman in the VLR vest' - This is Motor Rail 22070 with owner Henry Frampton-Jones in the VLR vest. Henry later moved this loco to Rowsley.
The photo of coach No2 has Henry again visible on the right.
The yellow loco in use with the coach is ex-BR Ruston 393325. Henry is acting as guard on the train.

I hope this info proves of interest,
Cheers,
Brian Cuttell

The CRS visit to the Vobster Light Railway. The gentleman walking alongside is the late Henry Frampton-Jones in the VLR vest. He was the owner of this short lived railway. Copyright Roger Winnen.

The CRS Special backs along the line. Copyright Roger Winnen.

Many thanks to Brian Cuttell for his up to date information. You will find more coverage of our visit at the very end of the Bristol and North Somerset Railway section.

Cornish Main Line closed
St Austell to Liskeard & Newquay
Roger Winnen

Today and tomorrow we see trains from Penzance terminating at St Austell with bus replacement service direct to Plymouth and also a stopping service calling at Par- Lostwithiel- Bodmin-Liskeard. The crossover at St Austell is operational for crossig from the up to the down main line, which is quite rare these days.

Here we see the return working of the 09.28 Penzance to St Austell using the crossover for the 11.00 to Penzance. Copyright Roger Winnen

Working the ground frame at St Austell. Copyright Roger Winnen

The 10.28 Penzance to St Austell is a five car IET 802022 seen arriving at St Austell, the signalman is about to pull the points. Copyright Roger Winnen

Looking down from the road bridge we see 802022 awaiting the use of the crossover. Copyright Roger Winnen

Crossing over at St Austell. Copyright Roger Winnen

Truro Viaduct
Roger Winnen

With the redevelopment taking place in Truro a new view of Truro Viaduct can be seen at the top of Pydar Street in the city centre

Truro Viaduct 92 feet high 1329 feet long and built with 20 piers on 14th February 1904. Copyright Roger Winnen

Swindon Operations
Colin Pidgeon

Swindon 66517 on 4L32 Wentloog to London Gateway. 18th November 2022. Copyright Colin Pidgeon.

66567 at Swindon on the 6A60 Whatley Quarry to Oxford Banbury Road. 18th November 2022. Copyright Colin Pidgeon.

6Q59 at Swindon on the Transfer to Honeybourne Sidings. 18th November 2022. Copyright Colin Pidgeon.

Many thanks to Colin. Colin has been unwell of late following an operation - we wish him a speedy recovery. Take it easy.

18th November 2022

18/11/2022

Two from Swindon
Ken Mumford

Ken spends a couple of hours at Swindon station.

3S59 - 0911 Hereford to Swindon (Transfer Yard) 66850 leading, 66846 trailing - both locos looking sort of clean compared with some of the other RHTT locos! 17th November 2022. Copyright Ken Mumford.

60066 could only have its photo taken in a satisfactory way from the eastern end of platforms 1/3 because from platform 4 there was a lot of railway bits and piece cluttering the view. As it was this loco tried to hide behind a bush. i was qutie surprised to find that its engine was ticking over - to me this was a waste of fuel. 17th November 2022. Copyright Ken Mumford.

Thanks Ken - all the best.

Wheal Busy Crossing
Andrew and Diane Jones

Dear Keith and Valerie, I had to drop our car into Vauxhall at Scorrier today for some attention which required a 2 hour wait. The garage is only a few yards from Hallenbeagle adjacent the Cornish Mainline with a convenient occupation crossing and decent view of the railway.
Best wishes Andrew and Diane.
I forgot to say here is a link to Hallenbeagle Mine. Hallenbeagle Mine - Explore Cornwall It makes very interesting reading. The occupation crossing where I took todays photographs I believe was near the site of Wheal Busy signal box and level crossing, perhaps someone at the society can verify that?

Wheal Busy crossing Scorrier 11.43 ex Gloucester 43027 leading and 43172 17th November 2022 Copyright Diane and Andrew Jones

A fine shot displaying the autumnal tints in Scorrier Woods as the 11.46 to Plymouth set 43016 and 43088 passes by 17th November 2022. Copyright Diane and Andrew Jones

Scorrier 12.10 ex Bristol dmu set 158950 17th November 2022. Copyright Diane and Andrew Jones

Wheal Busy 12.20 to Plymouth 43040 and 43094 leading 17th November 2022. Copyright Andrew and Diane Jones.

Hallenbeagle occupation crossing stop look and listen. 17th November 2022. Copyright Diane and Andrew Jones; N.B. This was the location of a down loop and a siding, Wheal Busy Signalbox was on the Up side of the this crossing right by the crossing. The sound of the bells and crashing of levers was once a prelude to the arrival of a train.

Glad you had an interesting - the weather looks reasonable.
Many thanks to Andrew and Diane.

A lot more on
Wheal Busy Crossing
- CRS Website

In his collection Andrew Jones mentions Wheal Busy Signalbox - there is much much more on the crossing and area on our website please see our section - 'Cornwall Galleries' - 'Scorrier to Penwithers Junction'.

Many thanks to all our contributors on this section.

17th November 2022

17/11/2022

TAKETHREE Bampton - Devon
Michael L.Roach

TAKETHREE – 17 November 1962 Michael L. Roach
Some of you will remember my friend CBF as a signalman with Railtrack, Network Rail and the South Devon Railway. However in his younger days his ambitions lay elsewhere and in 1962 he was a would-be farmer and living on a farm near the village of East Ogwell, Newton Abbot and studying at Seale Hayne Agricultural College. This explains the first leg of our half-day excursion on the afternoon of Saturday 17 November 1962 which was by car. I drove to East Ogwell from my home in Plymouth up the old A38 via the centre of Plympton, Ivybridge, Bittaford to pick up my friend from the farm. We parked the car at Newton Abbot Station and caught the 1.10pm local train to Exeter which consisted of three coaches hauled by a North British Type 2 diesel loco. We travelled up the Exe Valley line from Exeter to Bampton (Devon) by the train shown in the photos attached and watched it depart back to Exeter without us at 3.20pm SO. On Monday to Friday the train departed at 3.45pm perhaps to suit school times. The suffix Devon to the station name was necessary to distinguish this small town from Bampton in Oxfordshire.
We walked north for two miles from Bampton Station to Morebath Junction Halt on the Taunton to Barnstaple line arriving just before the light faded. This was an interesting rural junction a short distance south of Morebath Village which is on the B3190 16 miles south of Watchet and just a mile outside the boundary of the Exmoor National Park. The village is also just over a mile east of the River Exe which here forms the boundary between Devon and Somerset. Hence the name of the company that built the line from Taunton to Barnstaple, the Devon and Somerset Railway. Morebath Junction Signal Box was directly opposite the fork in the three single lines approaching the box but each line became double for the last few chains. In theory three trains could have approached the junction at the same time but normally the train from Exeter would have arrived first so that it could reach Dulverton and make connection with trains in both directions on the Taunton to Barnstaple Route.
Our train out of the halt was in fact the next train up the Exe Valley line an auto from Exeter at 3.25pm off St Davids but this one went all the way to Dulverton reached at 4.43pm. A half hour at Dulverton saw two trains cross here: 7333 on the 4.10pm from Barnstaple and 6372 on the 4.20pm from Taunton. Quite impressively a dozen passengers alighted from the Taunton train leaving 35 to continue on towards Barnstaple. Both trains connected with our train home which was the 5.15pm auto to Exeter consisting of two auto coaches now being propelled by 1451, another regular on the line. Our train crossed 1442 at Thorverton on the 5.25pm Exeter to Tiverton. With their large picture windows and open saloons it was easy to see, in the dark, that the two auto coaches of the other train were crowded with passengers. On a November evening, with steam heating and in the dark there was only one word to describe the trip – atmospheric and priceless. The half day had cost me ten shillings and six pence in railfares and ten shillings in petrol; about one pound all told; but I only earned about £8 a week at the time.
[ This article has been posted here as a tribute to fellow enthusiast and great friend Charles Fennamore who passed away four years ago on 9 November 2018]

5800/1/2 Below we see three views of the preserved 0-4-2T number 1442 at Bampton Station. The train had arrived at 3.05pm with the 2.08pm from Exeter St. Davids and would depart for Exeter at 3.20pm. The cheap day return for the 21 miles had cost us 4 shillings and 9 pence each and the cost of a gallon of petrol at the time was about five shillings. It will be observed that the home signal had just been painted. The last two pictures were taken at one thirtieth of a second but by the time we reached Morebath Junction Halt it was no longer possible to take photographs.

MLR / 10 November 2022

5800 Bampton (Devon) Copyright Michael L Roach

5801 Copyright Michael L. Roach.

5802 Copyright Michael L Roach.

The late Charles Fennamore at work in Totnes Signalbox. Charlie Fennamore passed away on the 9th Novmber 2018. This picture in memory of him, a fine railwayman. Copyright Totnes Image Bank

Many thanks Mike - also nice to include a tribute to Charles Fennamore - your good friend.

16th November 2022

16/11/2022

The Cornwall Railway Society Mini Bus tour of Devon
Exeter Canal- Okehampton-Meldon etc
Saturday 9th September 2000
Roger Winnen

000909x Arrival at the Turf Lock. Copyright Roger Winnen

000909zf Fragonset Livery Class 47 heads for Exeter etc. Copyright Roger Winnen

000909zt Meldon Quarry. Copyright Roger Winnen

For further coverage of the complete trip Click Here for Features October to December 22 and scroll down to Item 2246

Class 70 to the seaside
Driver Alan Peters

On the 14th November Colas Rail 70801 worked 6C40 from Westbury to St Blazey Signal Box for a ballast drop on the Newquay Branch, the train was formed of 5 auto hoppers and top and tailed with hired in Freighliner 66505, although class 70's have worked on the Newquay line before this was the first time one had reached the seaside town of Newquay.

70801 waiting at Exter platforn one waiting for a Plymouth bound Voyager service to pass. 14th November 2022. Copyright Driver Alan Peters,

From 70801 the drivers view waitig to enter the worksite at signnal SB 38 protecting Middleway Crossing note the overgrowth offering little protection for the Network Rail staff. 15th November 2022. Copyright Driver Alan Peters.

70801 became the first member of its class to reach Newquay - the torrential rain on the 15th November making it difficult to get a picture. Copyright Driver Alan Peters.

A last look at 70801 at Newquay (70801 is affectionally know as 'Donna' by traincrews due to being the Turkish demonstrator) the train returned to Westbury top and tailed by Freightliner 66505. Copyright Driver Alan Peters

Many thanks Alan for your pictures taken during a non too pleasant night proving to all the value of always having your camera or mobile to hand.

Reopening to
Tavistock
Paul Burkhalter & David Tozer

Many thanks to both Paul Burkhalter and to David Tozer for providing the links to the proposed re-extension of the line beyond Bere Alston to Tavistock. Please click on the links provided - the latter case also provides excellent pictures of Tavistock North by Roger Geach.

Hi Keith
See this report: https://www.devon.gov.uk/news/outline-business-case-submitted-for-reopening-tavistock-to-plymouth-rail-line/

Not holding my breath though based on the snail-like progress at Portishead.
Cheers,
Paul Burkhalter

Gents,
Interesting development.
Exciting Tavistock to Plymouth railway plans take huge leap forward - Devon Live
Dave Tozer

South Devon & the Exe
15th November 2022
Roger Salter

3 engineers train plus the RHTT a busy day ,although the first at 7.35 was just light the second at 8am I decided video was the best option, the third cloud /drizzle arrived 5 mins before but luckily went through before departure from the loop at the Warren.
The seas were spectacular after last night’s violent gale
Copyright Roger Salter

Thanks Roger

Another significant move in reopening the Portishead branch to Passenger Traffic.

Dear Member,
PRG is delighted that the Secretary of State for Transport yesterday, 14th November, accepted the Portishead Branch Line Development Consent Order (DCO) application.

The announcement is cause for great celebration. It has been a long and arduous journey to get to this most welcome point in the saga of reopening the railway to passenger traffic.

PRG also thanks and congratulates North Somerset Council staff for their hard work that resulted in the success of the DCO application, and Dr Liam Fox MP for his tireless work over many years to support the case for Portishead rail in Parliament and central government. Thanks are also owed to the three other local councils for their patience and support, and to WECA for also lobbying central government.

PRG members, and the people of Portishead and of Pill, are only too aware of the need for the town’s rail link with Bristol and beyond, the great benefits of which are well known and demonstrated in the DCO application. Urgent action is now required to push forward with construction so as to help solve the existing road congestion and resulting pollution problems, as soon as possible.

The acceptance of the DCO application is a prime example of local councils, regardless of political affiliation, working together for the common local good.

PRG will now turn its attention to what sort of stations and amenities can be provided at Portishead and Pill, to make this important new alternative transport offer as attractive as possible to those who currently use road transport.

Our Chairman, Alan Matthews, says, “This is a very welcome announcement. The Portishead line has always had a very strong business case and we are pleased that this was recognised by the Secretary of State. We now look forward to seeing the business case and full design so that the contracts can finally be put in place for construction of the line to start.”

Regards,
Peter

Peter Maliphant
Membership Secretary
Portishead Railway Group

As can be seen from the style, this was the new station opened in 1954, but not to last long - it closed to passengers on the 7th September 1964 and to goods in May 1967. The original Portishead station had been about half a mile further on, the line turning from a northerly heading to bear east into the old station. The original station had opened on the 18th April 1867 (exactly 101 years before the Cheddar Railtour) and closed on the 4th January 1954. Copyright John Thorn.

Many thanks to Peter Maliphant for forwarding the above important and very pleasing news to us.

Viewers can see our collection of views taken on the Portishead line by going to this link.

Portbury
Google Earth

For want of anything better to do if you go the Google Earth (Street View) and look for Portbury you will see from a road bridge spanning the course of the line, and rotating the view Portbury station building can be seen - the course of the branch into Portishead where you will see 'Station Road' marked - the short lived station became a garage for a while.

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15th November 2022

15/11/2022

Lily's Christmas Kitchen
Roger Winnen

802106 Ran today on the 12.04 Paddington-Penzance and returning on the 17.46 service

'Enquire within, upon everything'
Adlante sets
Guy Vincent

Atlante unit 180113 passes Rewe on the 0835 Paddington to Exeter 12th November 2007. Copyright Paul Barlow.

As usual, our extremely good friend and source of knowledge Guy Vincent has replied concerning the whereabouts of the Adlantes.

In answer to Keith’s recent question regarding the current position with the former Great Western class 180 ‘Adelante’ fleet (units 180101 - 180114) I did some research today and found out the following. The 14 class 180s were built by Alstom at Washwood Heath, Birmingham in 2000-2001 and used by Great Western Trains between 2002 and 2009 before going off lease and joining other operators. First Hull Trains used the 4 sets now with East Midlands Trains before replacing them with 5 new class 802 electro-diesel multiple units at the end of 2019. There are still 14 five car class 180 sets in existence and they are split between two train operators, East Midlands Trains having four: 180109 110 111 and 113. Grand Central use the other ten sets: 180101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 112 and 114. A Real Time Trains search based on London Kings Cross and Grand Central arrivals / departures for Monday 14th November revealed seven 180s were due to form the day’s services. Units concerned were 180101 105 106 107 108 112 and 114. All are painted in Grand Central’s attractive black livery with lining and decals applied. I was unable to find any EMT workings using their sets passing either St Albans or Derby but there are several dozen services shown and I might have missed something. 180110 is currently formed of only four vehicles as reportedly carriage 56910 has been removed due to advanced corrosion. I am unable to recall why they were never diagrammed west of Plymouth but possibly due to route clearance issues or weight maybe? The carriages each weigh in at between 49.5 and 51.7 tons depending on specification. Hopefully this will be of interest. Regards Guy Vincent

Many thanks indeed Guy - you never fail.

Class 47 at Westbury
Michael Adams

Here is a picture from Michael Adams showing 47317 waiting for the lovely signals to go off on 7 May 1981 ,with another load of Mendip stone for Acton. Copyright Michael Adams

Many Thanks Michael

Lily's Christmas Kitchen
Roger Salter

In rather a cloudy morning after early rain 802106 in new livery “Lily’s Christmas Kitchen” passed by Eastdon nr. Dawlish Warren on the 1A76 0610 Penzance-London Paddington
.Reading the web site Lily was the name of her owners dog who started the pet food business.

Thanks Roger

Bustitution affects services.
Par
Martin Scane

Morning Keith I had to start my journey to Bristol at Par today due to the engineering work further West, Here’s a quick snap taken whilst waiting for my train. Cheers Martin

Par - 12th November 2022. Copyright Martin Scane.

Many thanks Martin - sorry I missed your post at first.

An hour at Marston
Marston
Ken Mumford

Kind regards, Ken

RHTT 3J43 Didcot Fuelling Point [left 7 mins late at 0300] to Didcot Fuelling Point [arrived 1 minute early ] via Swindon, Trowbridge, Pewsey, Reading, Slough, Reading, Newbury, Chippenham and Swindon. It passed me at 10 32 [7 minutes late] then from South Marston Junction to Bourton it ran wrong line - and it got to Didcot Fuelling Point 1 early ! 14th November 2022. Copyright Ken Mumford.

[3] 4L36 Wentloog to Felixstowe - this train started 44 late from Cardiff, and passed me 28 mins late at 10 29. 14th November 2022. Copyright Ken Mumford.

[4] 4L36 going away from me eastwards headed by 66561. 14th November 2022. Copyright Ken Mumford.

Many thanks Ken.

14th November 2022

14/11/2022

Class 47 - 60 years celebration special
Swindon
Colin Pidgeon

57314 top & tailed with 47812 on 1Z69 Nottingham to Bath Spa at Swindon including transfer on 47812 showing 60 years of Brush Traction.
Photos taken during pathing stop 11.48-12.12.

57 314 at Swindon on the Nottingham to Bath, Special 10th November 2022. Copyright Colin Pidgeon

47812 brings up the rear on the Nottingham to Bath, Special 10th November 2022. Copyright Colin Pidgeon

Many thanks to you Colin.

13th November 2022

13/11/2022

The 06.57 6X04 Bodmin Sig LL1043 to Fairwater yard
Roger Salter

A very long train sending back many wagons load was 2000tons passed through Dawlish
66518 leading with 66509 at rear.
Copyright Roger Salter

Thanks Roger

Bristol City Docks
Day out in Bristol
Dennis Clarke

Hi Keith, I travelled down to Bristol today (12th November 2022) to see my team Watford play at Bristol City. The game was very poor but my walk to the stadium was very interesting. Walking along the docks revealed a lot of old railway lines and wagons. I took several photos which I found intriguing and it’s great to see that the tracks etc have been left in place for all to see how it was in the old days. I have enclosed a few for the website. By the way, the game ended 0-0 !!

Many thanks Dennis - we are so glad you took a walk via the docks and sent in those pictures of the complex at Bristol City Docks taken in beautiful light.

For details of the development in the area please try this link https://bristolcitydocks.co.uk/wapping-railway-wharf-2/

12th February 2022

12/11/2022

Cornwall Railway Society
Indoor Meeting tonight at the Memorial Hall Redruth

YTS Trainee to Senior Management
Chris Trerise from Kernow Rail commencing at 18.30

15 years ago today
Paul Barlow

Paxman powered 43142 and 43099 on the rear work the 0643 Penzance to Paddington 12th November 2007 seen at Stoke Canon . Copyright Paul Barlow.

43033 and 43094 on the rear approach Stoke Canon on 0730 Paddington to Penzance 12th November 2007. Copyright Paul Barlow.

43183 and 43091 pass Rewe on 0743 Penzance to Paddington 12th November 2007. Copyright Paul Barlow.

Atlante unit 180113 passes Rewe on the 0835 Paddington to Exeter. 12th November 2007. Copyright Paul Barlow.

Many thanks Paul. Your picture of an Adlante set prompts the question - where are they now and did one ever come to Cornwall and if not why not?

11th November 2022

11/11/2022

Armistice Day
11th November 2022
Clive Smith

Lest we forget. We will remember them.
Regards, Clive Smith.

(1) Opposite Teignmouth railway station. Copyright Clive Smith.

(2) Saltash Railway station. Copyright Clive Smith,

(3) The much missed remembrance livery of 43172 then named Harry Patch seen at Totnes in April 2019. Copyright Clive Smith.

We will and we do remember them. Many thanks for your further reminder Clive.

St Austell
Craig Munday

Hi Keith,
The Ground Frame at St Austell is in use at weekends in the coming weeks. I picked up the first shift on Sun 6th Nov. It was a blustery day with fierce showers which I largely avoided fortunately. The Ground Frame will be removed in 12 months time when Exeter takes over operation of the area. The crossover will remain and be controlled directly from the workstation. Turn back signals will also be provided.

A pair of Castle sets pass Tregarne near Probus on 4th Nov. Former favourites 43172 (Harry Patch) and 43093 Old Oak Common sweep by on long distance services. Grab them whilst you can as these Cardiff / Bristol services are likely to be the first IET replacements in the coming months.

Finally - day time up engineers train was too good to miss. I drove up to East Cornwall where the angle of the sun is more favorable to see 70817 head back to Westbury with 6C99 the Rail Delivery Train which had been at Penzance for a few days following a wagon defect. The light held across the landscape at Factory Road bridge near Menheniot as Colas Driver Mark Fabiano cruised the long train down the bank. Caradon Hill in the far distance had succumb to cloud. A rainbow finished off the composition (my, I push my luck at times)!

Cheers for now, Craig

1C71 at Tregarne 43172 43027 4th November 2022. Copyright Craig Munday

2U20 43093 43042 Tregarne 4th November 2022. Copyright Craig Munday.

St Austell GF from the east. Note the metals of the one time line to St Austell Goods yard - totally disconnected - no longer accessible. 6th November 2022. Copyright Craig Munday.

The much photographed 6C99 makes its way out of Cornwall from Factory Road bridge. Note the bonus rainbow - some people have all the luck! 9th November 2022. Copyright Craig Munday.

Many thanks Craig - you saved the best 'til last - what a picture, rainbow and all.

Very interesting
Cornwall Re-signalling
David Tozer

Gents,
This will interest you no doubt:-
A modular approach to signalling in Cornwall - Rail Engineer
Dave

David Tozer send us a very valuable link to a most comprehensive article - it will be well worth your while printing this off and keeping it for future reference. Many thanks David

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